Tiger Talking about Trackman

[mvmac]

"There's no getting round it, they're universal, they're law" geometry wins

[michaeljames92]

I saw this the other day. What interested me was his draw was +2 degrees and his fade was -5(attack angles). I would've thought the other way if anything.

[Beachcomber]

Originally Posted by michaeljames92

I saw this the other day. What interested me was his draw was +2 degrees and his fade was -5(attack angles). I would've thought the other way if anything.

Swing path of Inside-to-Outside (Draw) seems like more of an ascending blow to me (hitting up on the ball).  So +2 sounds right.

Swing path of Outside-to-Inside (Fade) seems like more of a descending blow (hitting down on the ball)... So -5 sounds right too.

As we know, the draw (with an ascending blow) will emit top spin and go further.  Thus the +2.

Tigers average club head speed is around 118mph.  This club head speed combined with a +2 angle of attack is why he can bomb it.

[iacas]

Originally Posted by Beachcomber

Swing path of Inside-to-Outside (Draw) seems like more of an ascending blow to me (hitting up on the ball).  So +2 sounds right.

Swing path of Outside-to-Inside (Fade) seems like more of a descending blow (hitting down on the ball)... So -5 sounds right too.

That's true but not if you keep the same baseline and plane. All else NOT equal, it's typically easier to come steeper into the ball when you swing left and to swing up on the ball while sending the clubhead path well to the right by letting your arms fly off your torso.

But again from a pure geometry standpoint, path right would be negative angle of attack and vice versa.

Originally Posted by Beachcomber

As we know, the draw (with an ascending blow) will emit top spin and go further.  Thus the +2.

Draws don't go farther, and they definitely don't have topspin. No properly struck golf shot (excluding the putter) has topspin.

[Beachcomber]

Sorry a draw, with a greater attack angle emits less spin than a fade with a lower attack angle, correct?

[iacas]

Originally Posted by Beachcomber

Sorry a draw, with a greater attack angle emits less spin than a fade with a lower attack angle, correct?

Yes generally, but not necessarily. Spin is primarily determined by dynamic loft and angle of attack.

So if I hit a shot with AoA -2 and a dynamic loft of 8 that's 10. That shot will spin LESS than a shot hit with +2/13 (easy to get if the driver shaft is leaning back a little at impact).

[bunkerputt]

-1 for Mike teasing me because I thought he was posting Tiger's trackman numbers.

[mvmac]

Originally Posted by bunkerputt

-1 for Mike teasing me because I thought he was posting Tiger's trackman numbers.

I have no idea what you're talking about, the thread title is very clear, I did not jus edit the title

[colin007]

"traj"...

[mvmac]

Originally Posted by colin007

"traj"...

I thought that was hilarious.  The cool kids don't say trajectory

[The_Pharaoh]

Originally Posted by mvmac

I thought that was hilarious.  The cool kids don't say trajectory

I hate it when he says "traj".

[TourSpoon]

Quote: Originally Posted by mvmac I thought that was hilarious. The cool kids don't say trajectory I hate it when he says "traj".

+1 on Traj comment.

[iacas]

If you say traj, chances are good that you're a vaj.

[The_Pharaoh]

Originally Posted by iacas

If you say traj, chances are good that you're a vaj.

I was thinking the same thing! Dirty minds.

[bunkerputt]

Originally Posted by bunkerputt

-1 for Mike teasing me because I thought he was posting Tiger's trackman numbers.

Originally Posted by mvmac

I have no idea what you're talking about, the thread title is very clear, I did not jus edit the title

Original comment should have read "+1 for Mike for awesome Tiger on...  err...  talking about Trackman thread"

[Deryck Griffith]

Originally Posted by michaeljames92

What interested me was his draw was +2 degrees and his fade was -5(attack angles). I would've thought the other way if anything.

Where did you see his numbers?

[mvmac]

Originally Posted by Deryck Griffith

Where did you see his numbers?

I think those we're the numbers he mentioned in the clip

[TourSpoon]

The reporters were all into Tiger's Trackman numbers.  It was a little surreal since the vast majority of viewers have no clue what they were talking about.  And then we have traj...