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Originally Posted by sean_miller

Unfortunately finding two good golfers with etiquette is rare enough, but finding them sharing the same cart is like winning the lottery. It's possible, and I've seen it and read about it, so I know it happens, but it's never happened to me personally.

Hilarious.  And true.

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Am I a homeless vagrant?  Hitchhiker?  Charity case? My last two rounds, I've walked the entire 18 holes carrying my bag.  Both times I played with people who were riding.  Both times I was con

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Maybe they were just trying to be courteous.  Perhaps they were being a little over-bearing by constantly offering, but I believe their hearts were in the right place.

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Slow play seldom has to do with carts. I catch groups ahead in carts when I'm walking all the time, especially if I'm not in a group. It's the preshot routines, not playing ready golf, taking too many

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Originally Posted by burtonda

There are many "parts" of golf and exercise is rarely the primary attraction.  Competition, self-improvement, hanging out with buddies, spending time outdoors, temporary relief from responsibility, interacting with clients, or just simply hitting a couple of good golf shots are much more important motivators to the vast majority of regular golfers.

And where does the use of golf carts assist in any way for anything in the list you have made?

In the race of life, always back self-interest. At least you know it's trying.

 

 

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Personal rule of thumb. I will take a cart if:

1) My playing partner requests it. Don't really care if it's due to age, infirmity, obesity or simple laziness. If the guy asks to split a cart I'm not going to be a dick about it.

2) I'm so hungover that I seriously considered not getting out of bed to play golf at all. Simple calculus, the cart can carry more cold water and/or beer.

Stretch.

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Originally Posted by Shorty

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Originally Posted by burtonda

There are many "parts" of golf and exercise is rarely the primary attraction.  Competition, self-improvement, hanging out with buddies, spending time outdoors, temporary relief from responsibility, interacting with clients, or just simply hitting a couple of good golf shots are much more important motivators to the vast majority of regular golfers.

And where does the use of golf carts assist in any way for anything in the list you have made?



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Originally Posted by Stretch

Personal rule of thumb. I will take a cart if:

1) My playing partner requests it. Don't really care if it's due to age, infirmity, obesity or simple laziness. If the guy asks to split a cart I'm not going to be a dick about it.

2) I'm so hungover that I seriously considered not getting out of bed to play golf at all. Simple calculus, the cart can carry more cold water and/or beer.



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Originally Posted by Shorty

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Originally Posted by burtonda

There are many "parts" of golf and exercise is rarely the primary attraction.  Competition, self-improvement, hanging out with buddies, spending time outdoors, temporary relief from responsibility, interacting with clients, or just simply hitting a couple of good golf shots are much more important motivators to the vast majority of regular golfers.

And where does the use of golf carts assist in any way for anything in the list you have made?

The point is not whether carts assist anything in that list, it's that they don't detract from anything in that list. (But I'm pretty sure you knew that and are just trying to live up to your reputation as a troublemaker. )

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I wish that I could still walk a golf course.  I'm not disabled but I have arthritis that gets worse every year and I just can't do it anymore.  I don't think that that makes me a pansy.  I'm just glad to still be able to play at all.

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Originally Posted by NuclearMike

I wish that I could still walk a golf course.  I'm not disabled but I have arthritis that gets worse every year and I just can't do it anymore.  I don't think that that makes me a pansy.  I'm just glad to still be able to play at all.

The best thing about carts is that they enable people like yourself to play. Noone would criticise you for using one.


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Originally Posted by Shorty

... Noone would criticise you for using one.



Why would you criticize anyone for using one?  What effect does my transportation preference have on you?  I don't care if you drive, carry, push, or pull your sack of clubs around the track as it has absolutely no effect on my enjoyment of my round.  If you keep a reasonable pace, repair your ball marks and divots, and yell fore if you banana slice one at me 2 fairways over then you're OK in my book and I'll buy you a beer at round's end.

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Originally Posted by burtonda

Why would you criticize anyone for using one?

Because one of the attractions of golf is getting a little closer to nature. If you want to be in a peaceful, beautiful place, it's best done on foot, not in a car.

Also, walking to your ball gives you time to think, plan and contemplate your next shot, rather than pulling up alongside it after zigzagging all over the place with your partner.

In the race of life, always back self-interest. At least you know it's trying.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Shorty

Because one of the attractions of golf is getting a little closer to nature. If you want to be in a peaceful, beautiful place, it's best done on foot, not in a car.

Also, walking to your ball gives you time to think, plan and contemplate your next shot, rather than pulling up alongside it after zigzagging all over the place with your partner.


Different strokes for different folks.  Enjoy your round however you wish.  Just don't criticize others for having different motivations and attractions to the sport.  There are courses where golf cart rental fees are integral in keeping the course afloat financially - granted this likely affects the less "peaceful, beautiful" ones.

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Originally Posted by burtonda

Different strokes for different folks.  Enjoy your round however you wish.  Just don't criticize others for having different motivations and attractions to the sport.  There are courses where golf cart rental fees are integral in keeping the course afloat financially - granted this likely affects the less "peaceful, beautiful" ones.



There are courses where they force people to pay for carts, too. That's money out of my pocket that many golfers on a budget can't afford. I play twilight golf, generally at cheaper courses, and I rarely play more than twice a month due to money issues. A lot of times the cart fee is more expensive than the greens fee, or you can buy a membership that requires a cart fee to play...

How about they make the pricing and membership options more fair? They would get a lot more play out of me if courses dropped that BS, maybe even make a profit by filling up the course more often. Their financial problems are their own problems, and if a course is any good and properly managed they don't need the cart fees to break even. If they want money from a bunch of middle aged guys, fine, but don't go screwing over the college and high school students, not to mention others who'd rather walk, by overcharging us.

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Originally Posted by LuciusWooding

There are courses where they force people to pay for carts, too. That's money out of my pocket that many golfers on a budget can't afford. I play twilight golf, generally at cheaper courses, and I rarely play more than twice a month due to money issues. A lot of times the cart fee is more expensive than the greens fee, or you can buy a membership that requires a cart fee to play...

How about they make the pricing and membership options more fair? They would get a lot more play out of me if courses dropped that BS, maybe even make a profit by filling up the course more often. Their financial problems are their own problems, and if a course is any good and properly managed they don't need the cart fees to break even. If they want money from a bunch of middle aged guys, fine, but don't go screwing over the college and high school students, not to mention others who'd rather walk, by overcharging us.


A course is there to make money, not to be "fair".  It's up to the course to decide whether they'll make more money by bundling cart fees but having fewer customers, or by offering walking rates and having more customers. It's Economics 101 - finding your price points.

If you're on a tight budget, you can play cheaper courses, as you state you do. For those with a larger budget, maybe it's nice for them to have a place that's more expensive but is less busy (resulting in better pace of play or more spread-out tee times.)

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Originally Posted by sacm3bill

A course is there to make money, not to be "fair".  It's up to the course to decide whether they'll make more money by bundling cart fees but having fewer customers, or by offering walking rates and having more customers. It's Economics 101 - finding your price points.

If you're on a tight budget, you can play cheaper courses, as you state you do. For those with a larger budget, maybe it's nice for them to have a place that's more expensive but is less busy (resulting in better pace of play or more spread-out tee times.)


I agree, but for a game that states its intention to expand, screwing over the young men learning the game can really cause problems, especially in this economy. In 10 years, I won't be a broke college student (hopefully), and the seniors the course currently sponges off of will be dead. And I still won't want to ride in a cart. I have no problem with courses charging 40K a year for memberships to keep the poor out, but I don't think public courses have the right to charge so much, given how crappily maintained most of them are. Charging more money to stay afloat is the worst way of dealing with money problems.

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I personally love to walk and avid about this.  My friends aren't like me.  They kind of poke at me a little and aren't super courteous in anyway.  What the hell is my point.  I haven't a clue except I love walking, the peace and quiet is great, and I could really give a rat's butt what others think about it.  I can keep up and if I can't I will not play.

Brian

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Originally Posted by Gresh24

Of course there are walkers that can keep up with anyone a cart.  Carts don't make slow players any faster, and certainly some walkers are very slow.  Slow golfers are slow golfers and fast golfers are fast golfers regardles.

But, all things being equal, you can play faster riding.



Maybe if it's just you - but it's also true that there is nothing slower on this Earth than 4 really bad golfers in 2 carts.

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Originally Posted by AmazingWhacker

I agree!  I always walk and give my friends crap if they want to rent a cart.  If I'm paired up with a rider who seems otherwise healthy I will usually find a few occassions to make my opinion known as well.  Last time I was offered a ride, my answer was 'No thanks-  carts are for the old and sick'.  I said this, of course, with a huge grin on my face to make it seem like I was trying to make a joke . . but everybody knew I wasn't joking, lol.


Let's see, a person tried to be polite and courteous by offering you a ride.  You repaid that kindness with contempt.  Your parents must be so proud.

Anyways, back to our regularly scheduled program...

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