Is yelling "FORE" enough?

[RayG]

I witnessed an event about 20 yrs ago that always makes me keep my eyes open. At the local muni, there is a hole with a tee box off to the side of a green that has a bunker within 30yds of the tee on a slight angle. Plenty close if there is any kind of pull or shank. A woman walked to her ball in the bunker and the guy on the tee were paying absolutely no attention to each other. Not watching what was going on. She went off blindly trudging into the trap, while the guy was fiddling and getting to ready to drive, he actually looked out towards the fairway 2 or 3 times but paid no attention. Sure enough, no "Fore" would have been quick enough. He push shanked his drive straight to her temple and she dropped like a stone. No cel phones on the course and this was the furthest point from the clubhouse, naturally. Fortunately, because it was the furthest out and a spot where the 5th(tee) and 13th(green) are- they had a hotdog stand and the guy had a cart. Took over 25 minutes to get an ambulance back there, but she turned out to be not that seriously injured. Hit the side of the Visor and that was probably enough of a cushion to prevent a brain with a ball in it's core. I try not to get to ahead of the people I'm playing with to avoid things like that, but you can usually tell within a few holes how they are likely to hit it. But I try to keep a tree between us if I can!

[Gresh24]

Originally Posted by Alan Conroy

So on the same note if a pro shanks one and hits one of the crowd in the tunnel he is also at fault. I say the spectator is at fault. He deserves one between the eyes.

Spectators are completely different.  Like baseball games, the spectator and event have an agreement - sometimes it's even in writing on a ticket or voucher.  There is case law that has established precedence in these situations.  Yours, not so much.  I'm shocked you weren't sued...

"Stupid is as stupid does?" Joking about this and the guys lasting injuries...

It sounds like you did this on purpose!    Sick!

[Alan Conroy]

Originally Posted by saevel25

Its his own fault for going ahead while others still needed to hit, he could have just waited, then he would have known you were going to hit a 2nd drive from the tee box.

I think yelling "Fore" is enough, if its used anymore. Most people don't even bother..

I shout FORE for everyone in my flight. Better safe than sorry. I love the guys who copy the pros and put their arm up instead of shouting. W'#nkers!

Originally Posted by Gresh24

Wow, Alan, you are one sick SOB.

I don't suffer morons easily, if that's what you mean. The guy probably had it coming. What goes around comes around. I later heard that he used to kick his dog when he was angry with his wife. I say hit the wife.

[Mr3Wiggle]

Now that I know you're pulling my leg, this thread is pretty funny.

[Motley01]

What is wrong with you Alan? You're attitude stinks of massive crap!

The guy probably deserved it?, it was his fault? YOU LET HIM go down in front of you to get his ball.

It's your fault PERIOD!!!

You stated what goes around comes around? Ya that would be on you man. Let me guess, you had a string of bad luck after this incident?

[Alan Conroy]

Originally Posted by RayG

I witnessed an event about 20 yrs ago that always makes me keep my eyes open. At the local muni, there is a hole with a tee box off to the side of a green that has a bunker within 30yds of the tee on a slight angle. Plenty close if there is any kind of pull or shank. A woman walked to her ball in the bunker and the guy on the tee were paying absolutely no attention to each other. Not watching what was going on. She went off blindly trudging into the trap, while the guy was fiddling and getting to ready to drive, he actually looked out towards the fairway 2 or 3 times but paid no attention. Sure enough, no "Fore" would have been quick enough. He push shanked his drive straight to her temple and she dropped like a stone. No cel phones on the course and this was the furthest point from the clubhouse, naturally. Fortunately, because it was the furthest out and a spot where the 5th(tee) and 13th(green) are- they had a hotdog stand and the guy had a cart. Took over 25 minutes to get an ambulance back there, but she turned out to be not that seriously injured. Hit the side of the Visor and that was probably enough of a cushion to prevent a brain with a ball in it's core. I try not to get to ahead of the people I'm playing with to avoid things like that, but you can usually tell within a few holes how they are likely to hit it. But I try to keep a tree between us if I can!

Once again, nobody's fault. I once had a lucky escape myself. My partner was preparing to hit and a duck wandered out in front of his line. I indicated that I was going to shoo the duck away and as I walked out in front of him to do this he hit. I felt the wind and whizz of the ball to the side of my left ear. He was so concentrated on the shot, he didn't hear or see my intention. My fault and a lucky escape. Luckily I have never sinned in my life. Good Karma!

Originally Posted by Gresh24

Spectators are completely different.  Like baseball games, the spectator and event have an agreement - sometimes it's even in writing on a ticket or voucher.  There is case law that has established precedence in these situations.  Yours, not so much.  I'm shocked you weren't sued...

"Stupid is as stupid does?"   Joking about this and the guys lasting injuries...

It sounds like you did this on purpose!    Sick!

If I did it on purpose, I would be getting booked by the circus. Maybe they could get baby seals to pop their heads up above a wall as I take pop shots at them!

Now that would be fun.

Just joking!

[Alan Conroy]

Originally Posted by Motley01

What is wrong with you Alan? You're attitude stinks of massive crap!

The guy probably deserved it?, it was his fault? YOU LET HIM go down in front of you to get his ball.

It's your fault PERIOD!!!

You stated what goes around comes around? Ya that would be on you man. Let me guess, you had a string of bad luck after this incident?

Actually I was getting laid by three different babes for about three months after the incident. The story about this event was a great pick up line. I do it again if it brought me that kinda luck.

Originally Posted by Mr3Wiggle

Now that I know you're pulling my leg, this thread is pretty funny.

I'd love to pull your wiggle! I can't believe some of the guys are taking this so seriously. The event did however take place but I was only apologetic and often wave up to the window where he sits.

[zipazoid]

Originally Posted by Gresh24

In this situation, a hell of a lot!

1.  Give the guy the ball in your pocket to hit, and tell him to get his ball after everyone tees off

2.  Make him get a new ball and not go after his

3.  IF he insists on getting his ball, everyone else waits 'till he gets back to tee off

Wow, this situation is nuts, and frankly sounds about as stupid and irresponsible as you can get.

What I meant is, if you hit a shot that's heading towards someone's cranium, what more can you do - at that moment - but yell Fore?

Aside from that, this whole incident just smelled of potential disaster. Sorta like a redneck that yells "HEY WATCH THIS!"

[Alan Conroy]

Originally Posted by zipazoid

What I meant is, if you hit a shot that's heading towards someone's cranium, what more can you do - at that moment - but yell Fore?

Aside from that, this whole incident just smelled of potential disaster. Sorta like a redneck that yells "HEY WATCH THIS!"

I didn't get time to yell FORE but it did pass through my mind as the ball gathered some of the guys skin, hair, flesh, fragments of skull etc before heading further down the fairway. The rules didn't allow me to clean the foreign substance off the ball until I got it to the putting surface. I think the rule should be amended for this particular situation.

We did however have to give him a lift and drop so the next flight could continue.

[Motley01]

Originally Posted by Alan Conroy

Actually I was getting laid by three different babes for about three months after the incident. The story about this event was a great pick up line. I do it again if it brought me that kinda luck.

I'd love to pull your wiggle! I can't believe some of the guys are taking this so seriously. The event did however take place but I was only apologetic and often wave up to the window where he sits.

OK hard to tell who's serious or not on the internets. You know a bunch of wackos out there. I thought for a minute you got hit in the head with a ball and never recovered. LOL

[bplewis24]

Originally Posted by Zeph

I've thought about from time to time. When players walk up to their ball some 20 yards ahead of another player. You don't stand in their aim line of course, but if the guy shanks it or something, you won't be able to react before the ball is too close.

Yes, this happens way too often.  We always assume nobody will shank a shot directly to the left or right of them and only 10-20 feet in front, but it happens.  When I lose the feel for my swing, I often start hitting hosel rockets that shoot off to the right, advancing anywhere from 10-40 yards and going off to the right of me by about 10-40 yards.  I haven't had this problem in a while, but a couple months ago this crept into my round, and the stranger I was playing with would often walk up to his ball that was ahead of mine, and I would have to remind him to wait.

He thought I was being a dick, I'm sure.  I was hitting the ball well to start the round and he probably assumed I was just being a stickler for golf etiquette.  Eventually I hit a few hosel rockets in a row, and he finally understood what I was talking about.  What's even worse is that, when somebody stands in that spot that would be in the line of that shot, it immediately makes me worried about hitting a shank, even if I have been swinging well. It sort of gives me the yips and ends up resulting in that shot.  Thank goodness I've only come close to hitting somebody like this once.

Brandon

[Mr3Wiggle]

My only question for Alan.  Did you assess him a penalty for interfering with your golf ball?

[Alan Conroy]

Originally Posted by bplewis24

Yes, this happens way too often.  We always assume nobody will shank a shot directly to the left or right of them and only 10-20 feet in front, but it happens.  When I lose the feel for my swing, I often start hitting hosel rockets that shoot off to the right, advancing anywhere from 10-40 yards and going off to the right of me by about 10-40 yards.  I haven't had this problem in a while, but a couple months ago this crept into my round, and the stranger I was playing with would often walk up to his ball that was ahead of mine, and I would have to remind him to wait.

He thought I was being a dick, I'm sure.  I was hitting the ball well to start the round and he probably assumed I was just being a stickler for golf etiquette.  Eventually I hit a few hosel rockets in a row, and he finally understood what I was talking about.  What's even worse is that, when somebody stands in that spot that would be in the line of that shot, it immediately makes me worried about hitting a shank, even if I have been swinging well. It sort of gives me the yips and ends up resulting in that shot.  Thank goodness I've only come close to hitting somebody like this once.

Brandon

Brandon, guys like this deserve to sit looking out of a window for the rest of their lives. You are too kind.

Originally Posted by Mr3Wiggle

My only question for Alan.  Did you assess him a penalty for interfering with your golf ball?

He was disqualified for slow play before I could enforce that rule.

[Golfingdad]

Originally Posted by Gresh24

Wow, Alan, you are one sick SOB.

I'm assuming this thread is just one big sick ridiculous joke.  If not, listen to Gresh here.

And to play along ... How exactly is it "his fault" if you "told him that was OK but he should wait down there and return to the tee after we had taken our drives" and he popped his head up after his two playing partners hit one drive each, and you decide to hit a third?

So, to recap ... if this thread is a joke, its not funny.  If its not a joke, you are an idiot.

[Alan Conroy]

Originally Posted by Golfingdad

I'm assuming this thread is just one big sick ridiculous joke.  If not, listen to Gresh here.

And to play along ... How exactly is it "his fault" if you "told him that was OK but he should wait down there and return to the tee after we had taken our drives" and he popped his head up after his two playing partners hit one drive each, and you decide to hit a third?

So, to recap ... if this thread is a joke, its not funny.  If its not a joke, you are an idiot.

I may be an idiot but the thread is definitely funny. We laughed for months telling this tale to friends etc. We used to phone his wife up afterwards and ask if we could take 'Lucky Jim' out for a push on his wheelchair. Now that's funny.

[rustyredcab]

Local muni has a 9-hole course that gets backed up every afternoon. On the first tee it was common for juniors and other short hitters to tee off while the average hitters waited for the fairway to clear. Guy playing with his son has his son tee off first -- from the forward tees. Son moves way over to the right near a fence that blocks the tee box from the driving range. When the fairway clears, dad tees off, hits it hard and right, hits son in the head and drops him dead. I never knew the family (they lived a few towns over) but I, and everyone else in the community, was pretty shaken up. As a dad who played a lot of golf with my young son, I can not imagine...

Needless to say, the starters are now vigilant about making sure everyone is behind the person hitting. As am I.

[bplewis24]

Originally Posted by rustyredcab

Local muni has a 9-hole course that gets backed up every afternoon. On the first tee it was common for juniors and other short hitters to tee off while the average hitters waited for the fairway to clear. Guy playing with his son has his son tee off first -- from the forward tees. Son moves way over to the right near a fence that blocks the tee box from the driving range. When the fairway clears, dad tees off, hits it hard and right, hits son in the head and drops him dead. I never knew the family (they lived a few towns over) but I, and everyone else in the community, was pretty shaken up. As a dad who played a lot of golf with my young son, I can not imagine...

Needless to say, the starters are now vigilant about making sure everyone is behind the person hitting. As am I.

I can't think of much worse that could happen to a father than to inadvertently cause the death of his own son.

Brandon

[Alan Conroy]

Originally Posted by rustyredcab

Local muni has a 9-hole course that gets backed up every afternoon. On the first tee it was common for juniors and other short hitters to tee off while the average hitters waited for the fairway to clear. Guy playing with his son has his son tee off first -- from the forward tees. Son moves way over to the right near a fence that blocks the tee box from the driving range. When the fairway clears, dad tees off, hits it hard and right, hits son in the head and drops him dead. I never knew the family (they lived a few towns over) but I, and everyone else in the community, was pretty shaken up. As a dad who played a lot of golf with my young son, I can not imagine...

Needless to say, the starters are now vigilant about making sure everyone is behind the person hitting. As am I.

I'm sure this was supposed to be serious but I didn't get the point. Don't play with your son, play with someone elses..