2012 US Open at Olympic Club Discussion Thread

[iacas]

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxL05QDll98[/VIDEO] "Enjoy the jail cell pal." There are a bunch more on YouTube. Most will probably get pulled. The remixes may be interesting... ;-)

[mtsalmela80]

i cant help but wonder what was the message behind that, and he didnt really go to jail now did he?

[iacas]

i cant help but wonder what was the message behind that, and he didnt really go to jail now did he?

He probably did. It isn't legal. I doubt there was much of a message, either.

[Wansteadimp]

Originally Posted by Zwick

Another first-time major winner.

And Royal Lytham to come next which has thrown up 1st time major winners 5 of the last 7 times the Open has been played there. Seve won twice and Player won being the two none first time winners.

[boogielicious]

I went to sleep and missed that!!!  I guess when you are in San Francisco, you should expect that!

Anyone else think that Bob Costas is an insufferable puke?  I can't stand the guy.  I want to watch golf, not have some 10 minute up close and personal story aired so we miss the tournament.  He is horrible in the Olympics as well.  He always brings up negatives during interviews.  He was talking to one player, maybe Simpson, and instead of saying, "You had a great round and have a chance to win", he said more to the effect, "yeah the other guy is blowing the lead to give you a chance just like so-and-so back in '97."  Awful.

I bet Costas was always picked last for kickball.

CBS and Golf Channel please, please outbid NBC for all the majors!!

[Wansteadimp]

Originally Posted by boogielicious

I went to sleep and missed that!!!  I guess when you are in San Francisco, you should expect that!

Anyone else think that Bob Costas is an insufferable puke?  I can't stand the guy.  I want to watch golf, not have some 10 minute up close and personal story aired so we miss the tournament.  He is horrible in the Olympics as well.  He always brings up negatives during interviews.  He was talking to one player, maybe Simpson, and instead of saying, "You had a great round and have a chance to win", he said more to the effect, "yeah the other guy is blowing the lead to give you a chance just like so-and-so back in '97."  Awful.

I bet Costas was always picked last for kickball.

CBS and Golf Channel please, please outbid NBC for all the majors!!

Perfect, Sky can have Costas, whoever in the US can have Montgomorie - you can listen to his woe is me tales of US Opens and how he single handedly won the Ryder Cup in Wales and and  and

[zipazoid]

Originally Posted by mtsalmela80

i cant help but wonder what was the message behind that, and he didnt really go to jail now did he?

Copious amounts of alcohol.

Hell yeah he went to jail.

[uttexas]

P.S. Can't wait to see Hossler at the 40 acres.

UT won the team NCAA this year. If Spieth maintains his amateur status and stays at Texas, we could be in for a nice run of team/individual championships similar to or surpassing the Kite/Crenshaw early 70s.

[bplewis24]

Originally Posted by carpediem4300

oh and i completely forgot about the muppets chanting "usa, usa, usa" everytime a european player tee'd off,.............not sure either if that was friendly mocking or what, but a bit un-called for i thought

I find it embarrassing.

Originally Posted by mtsalmela80

I missed that part but if thats how it played out the USGA needs to investigate...

That's not how it played out...that's spin.

[RemyM]

I think it's time they stop selling beer at golf tournaments.

Furyk must have drank his 5 hour energy before he went to the range and it wore off on the back 9 because he plays so damn slow.  4:20 for a twosome, they never got back into position after their warnings and should have been on the clock.  The last group argument doesn't fly with me, if you believe that then you must also feel that the team driving for a winning score at the end of a football game should get more time on the play clock then they had earlier in the game so they have time to call just the right play.

[jamo]

I went to sleep and missed that!!!  I guess when you are in San Francisco, you should expect that!   Anyone else think that Bob Costas is an insufferable puke?  I can't stand the guy.  I want to watch golf, not have some 10 minute up close and personal story aired so we miss the tournament.  He is horrible in the Olympics as well.  He always brings up negatives during interviews.  He was talking to one player, maybe Simpson, and instead of saying, "You had a great round and have a chance to win", he said more to the effect, "yeah the other guy is blowing the lead to give you a chance just like so-and-so back in '97."  Awful. I bet Costas was always picked last for kickball. CBS and Golf Channel [U]please, please[/U] outbid NBC for all the majors!!

FWIW, NBC = Golf Channel. Both owned by Comcast. I don't like Costas, but no more than I dislike the monologues by Rick Reilly, Tom Rinaldi, or whomever.

[x129]

We have had a whole thread about it. Most people said slow play is slow play and it sounded like most of them would have had no problem giving Jim a stroke penalty for his slow play on that whole.

Originally Posted by mtsalmela80

I missed that part but if thats how it played out the USGA needs to investigate...there is no reason to start heckling players about slow play with less than 9 holes to go, last group.

[x129]

I am sure it is just like Augusta (except people actually play Olympic as a home course). If you water the course and adjust the rough it turns into a tough course but one where you can get your ball to stick on the green. It also helps when you play at 6200 yards instead of 7000.

Originally Posted by stogiesnbogies

one other thought for everyone: If the Olympic club is this difficult what mere mortal golfer would want to be a member?!  LOL

[sacm3bill]

Originally Posted by te3point5

Quote:

Originally Posted by stogiesnbogies

one other thought for everyone: If the Olympic club is this difficult what mere mortal golfer would want to be a member?!  LOL

They set up the course specifically for the US Open. Grow the rough to ridiculous lengths, narrow the fairway, speed up the green's. Olympic when it's not hosting the US Open probably isn't nearly as difficult. I bet for the few weeks leading up to the open the members' indexes went up a bit though.

I read somewhere that the course was closed for about a month prior to the tournament as part of the preparation.

[pixel5]

Originally Posted by PARfect

P.S. Can't wait to see Hossler at the 40 acres.

As a Texas Tech alumni, he can go jump off the golden gate bridge. Haha. Got high hopes for this kid, even if he did choose the wrong school.

[stoverny]

After watching (almost) all of this tournament, I'd have to say it wasn't all that enjoyable to watch.  Perhaps that's because I was pulling for Tiger/G-Mac/Westwood.  Webb Simpson is a good player and perhaps a nice guy, but oh so dull.  Same with Furyk.

But on a more objective level I didn't find the course all that fun.  I understand it's supposed to be difficult.  I don't want to see 20-under.  Here were my issues as a casual golf fan:

-I want to see players hit their driver once in a while.  Course required way too many irons/hybrids off the tee.  Love the Tiger stinger but it gets a little old watching guys lay up to 220 on a Par-4, then hit their 2nd shot into a bunker.

-Way too many chips that were essentially hacking it out of weeds because the rough was so ridiculous.  That kind of rough puts way too much emphasis on luck when chipping.

-Related to the above, the rough on the fairways was so long that, again, too much luck was involved.  It all depended on how the ball happened to sit up (or not).  As Johnny Miller never got bored of pointing out.

Overall I think the course made luck too big a factor in general.  I saw players hit the same shot into a green on the same day - one would skip forward and roll off the back, another would stop well short of the hole.  It didn't seem to reward good shot-making because even the players didn't know where the ball would go once it hit.

Also it just seemed like TOO much bunker play.  Honestly I enjoy a well-done bunker shot but it seemed like every shot around the green was a blast from a bunker.  Probably because so many of the approach shots were from that ridiculous rough.

Finally, ESPN/NBC's coverage was awful.  Chris Berman doing golf is just a joke.  Johnny Miller knows his stuff but is not enjoyable to listen to at all.  Dour and grumpy.  I wonder if anyone has a count of how many times he used the phrase "breaks towards Lake Merced".  CBS does an immeasurably better job covering golf.

[bplewis24]

Originally Posted by x129

We have had a whole thread about it. Most people said slow play is slow play and it sounded like most of them would have had no problem giving Jim a stroke penalty for his slow play on that whole.

There would never have been an opportunity to assess a penalty as he was never on the clock.

[Mr3Wiggle]

Originally Posted by stoverny

After watching (almost) all of this tournament, I'd have to say it wasn't all that enjoyable to watch.  Perhaps that's because I was pulling for Tiger/G-Mac/Westwood.  Webb Simpson is a good player and perhaps a nice guy, but oh so dull.  Same with Furyk.

But on a more objective level I didn't find the course all that fun.  I understand it's supposed to be difficult.  I don't want to see 20-under.  Here were my issues as a casual golf fan:

-I want to see players hit their driver once in a while.  Course required way too many irons/hybrids off the tee.  Love the Tiger stinger but it gets a little old watching guys lay up to 220 on a Par-4, then hit their 2nd shot into a bunker.

-Way too many chips that were essentially hacking it out of weeds because the rough was so ridiculous.  That kind of rough puts way too much emphasis on luck when chipping.

-Related to the above, the rough on the fairways was so long that, again, too much luck was involved.  It all depended on how the ball happened to sit up (or not).  As Johnny Miller never got bored of pointing out.

Overall I think the course made luck too big a factor in general.  I saw players hit the same shot into a green on the same day - one would skip forward and roll off the back, another would stop well short of the hole.  It didn't seem to reward good shot-making because even the players didn't know where the ball would go once it hit.

Also it just seemed like TOO much bunker play.  Honestly I enjoy a well-done bunker shot but it seemed like every shot around the green was a blast from a bunker.  Probably because so many of the approach shots were from that ridiculous rough.

Finally, ESPN/NBC's coverage was awful.  Chris Berman doing golf is just a joke.  Johnny Miller knows his stuff but is not enjoyable to listen to at all.  Dour and grumpy.  I wonder if anyone has a count of how many times he used the phrase "breaks towards Lake Merced".  CBS does an immeasurably better job covering golf.

Totally agree on Miller.  How many times does Johnny have to tell us the same thing?  We get it, Tiger doesn't adjust well to the course softening up.