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65/20/15 Practice Ratios: Where to Devote Your Practice Time

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41 minutes ago, Vespidae said:

Yes, I do.

You don't. I mean, this isn't an opinion. You went one route — you don't know that route was the "best" because, again, you didn't have several alternate universes in which to test other methods that may have been better.

41 minutes ago, Vespidae said:

His assessment was "your scores are ok but ... you'll never be any good because you just don't have a swing that repeats. And to create a swing that repeats, you have to ditch that shit you're doing now."

Everyone's swing "repeats" to within a pretty small degree.

41 minutes ago, Vespidae said:

So I hit thousands of SW shots. Still do. Just to find the face of the club at impact. I've worked on rebuilding my swing over the last 2 years and am playing the best, most consistent golf of my life.

I'm glad. Still doesn't change what I've said.

41 minutes ago, Vespidae said:

My point is ... which no one apparently agrees with ... is mechanics matter.

Nobody that I know of here disagrees with that.

They're disagreeing that the way you went about it should be followed by others. I'm pointing out the fact that you don't know if it was even the best plan for you. It's the one you chose, so you're going to believe in it, but you can't know.

I'm glad you're happy.

Thanks for adding the avatar.

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1 hour ago, iacas said:

I'm glad you're happy.

Yes. I’m happy. I have a plan, have a coach who supports that plan, and use LSW to support it with a practice plan with what I think is effective for me. 

Cheers.

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Here's an interesting question. I'm a golf resort recently and spoke to a highly ranked female amateur, plays D1 golf at a top school, and who was preparing for a tournament. I asked her about 65/25/10 and if she practiced that way. 

She said she knew all about it and no, she didn't. In fact, her woman's team does the opposite. She said it's based on the slower swing speed that women generate and that the strategy of her team, and pretty much everyone she plays, puts the ball in play and in the fairway. So the game (in her opinion) comes down to short game. Her coaches employ a 70% short game practice and 30% full swing. 

She admitted, it is completely different for the men's team. They practice 70% full swing and only a little on the short game. She said they can really bomb it and it's a different game for them.

I'm not claiming one way or the other is accurate, but does this make sense? What do you think of her point?

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47 minutes ago, Vespidae said:

I'm not claiming one way or the other is accurate, but does this make sense? What do you think of her point?

Her coach is wrong, and likely costing that team some of its performance.

Absent a glaring weakness, 65/20/15 holds up over a wide range of handicaps, genders, etc.

I could see how women might shift it slightly, because if you're hitting it 220, the fairways play a lot wider… but if you're hitting it 220, you're also hitting longer clubs into many greens, so you have to be better with a 5H from 170 than a guy does with a 9I from 140. Y'know?

The best players on the LPGA Tour are the better ball strikers, just like on the PGA Tour.

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The 65-20-15 idea seems logical to me.  It is safe to assume I will only 1-putt occasionally and thus for any chance at Par I need to be GIR to get a 2-Putt Par, and then my 1-putts would be birdie, not to save par.  To get a GIR I need a good approach shot and my best approach shots are from the fairway, not the rough or from behind a tree.  If I want my approach shot to be from the fairway I need to land my tee shot in the fairway.  Thus, to me the Tee Shot sets up everything else so it makes sense to devote substantial time to that.  

I did recently spend time specifically on my long irons because I was hitting the fairway with my tee shots but then pushing my long irons right so I dedicated a lesson and practice time just for that for a couple of weeks, That was to address a specific weakness and will not be my permanent practice routine.  Unfortunately, I am now noticing that my driver is suffering so maybe I neglected it too long.

 

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