Gainey - Does this make your body hurt by just looking at it?

[nevets88]

Am I right in guessing he's pretty flexible?

[Mr. Desmond]

Yes, it hurts.

And I turn my eyes.

[GaijinGolfer]

Just goes to show you that a homegrown swing that isnt mechanically perfect can work on tour.

[Truegolf]

Just shows a good ball striker can beat a classic looking swinger anytime. spend more time practicing on being a better ball striker rather than perfecting swing techniques One of my major paradym shifts about golf was go with the swing you have and improve the way one hits the ball. quit hitting the ball , and instead allow the ball collide with a swinging club head and , you will hit the ball on the clubhead's sweetspot every time That's my distinction between a regular hitter and a ball striker

[MEfree]

Originally Posted by Truegolf

Just shows a good ball striker can beat a classic looking swinger anytime.

spend more time practicing on being a better ball striker rather than perfecting swing techniques

One of my major paradym shifts about golf was go with the swing you have and improve the way one hits the ball.

quit hitting the ball , and instead allow the ball collide with a swinging club head and , you will hit the ball on the clubhead's sweetspot every time

That's my distinction between a regular hitter and a ball striker

Originally Posted by GaijinGolfer

Just goes to show you that a homegrown swing that isnt mechanically perfect can work on tour.

I am not exactly sure what his swing says....there are different ways to look at it...he has the talent/guts to shoot 60 on a Sunday to win a PGA Tour event over a future Hall of Famer or two, but at 37 years old he has a grand total of 1 tour win and 48 made cuts...48 made cuts for a 37 yo is not really lighting it up by Tour standards.  Charles Howell is 4 years younger and has made 275 cuts.

I doubt there are any tour winners the past 2 years who have missed as many cuts as Gainey.  2011 & 2012 have been Gainey`s BEST 2 years on tour and he has failed to make the cut in 31 of the 65 events he entered.  Prior to that he was worse having missed more cuts than he has made lifetime.

I am impressed by anyone playing close to tour standard (let alone a tour winner), but Gainey is certainly not the most consistent guy out there.  Whether he would be more or less consistent and a better player overall with a more classic swing is not something that I would try to speculate about.

[uttexas]

Weird backswing with an odd 1/6 hip turn left hip squat poke forward. But his arms.elbows. hands through impact A6-A8 are phenomenal.

[mchepp]

Originally Posted by uttexas

Weird backswing with an odd 1/6 hip turn left hip squat poke forward. But his arms.elbows. hands through impact A6-A8 are phenomenal.

He has that pitch elbow thing down.

His right shoulder movement from A4 to A7 is really good as well. I also think his hip movement is underrated as well.

[Righty to Lefty]

I applaud the man regardless of how many cuts he's made....I mean after all he started by winning Big Break and then managed to win at every level on his way to the Tour. Bottom  line is the man is cashing PGA tour checks.  However his swing looks he hits the piss out of the ball and has shown that he can score low and is capable of winning.

[MEfree]

Originally Posted by Righty to Lefty

I applaud the man regardless of how many cuts he's made....I mean after all he started by winning Big Break and then managed to win at every level on his way to the Tour. Bottom  line is the man is cashing PGA tour checks.  However his swing looks he hits the piss out of the ball and has shown that he can score low and is capable of winning.

I mostly agree with you and would love to have half his game...my point about the missed cuts is that while a guy can be a successful pro playing 2 or 3 really good tournaments a year while playing poorly the rest of the time is that as an amateur it could find it frustrating playing so far down from your peak the majority of the time.

I posted a thread a while back about asking whether you would prefer to score close to your average most of the time or playing really good and really bad...23 of 31 said they would prefer to be consistent http://thesandtrap.com/t/53797/would-you-rather-be-more-or-less-consistent

My hat is off to two gloves to be able to have the guts/confidence/etc to make the most of his good weeks and enjoy the success he has had.

[x129]

I don't know. The amateurs that I play with that are 15's except for those 3 weeks when the club holds championships don't seem that bothered by playing poorly the rest of the year

I haven't looked it up but how many cuts do guys on 50-100th on the money list typically make? I am guessing it is around 55-65% which isn't too far off of Gainey's numbers. We tend to get spoiled by guys like Tiger that make 95%+ of the cuts.

Originally Posted by MEfree

I mostly agree with you and would love to have half his game...my point about the missed cuts is that while a guy can be a successful pro playing 2 or 3 really good tournaments a year while playing poorly the rest of the time is that as an amateur it could find it frustrating playing so far down from your peak the majority of the time.

[wadesworld]

Originally Posted by MEfree

I am not exactly sure what his swing says....there are different ways to look at it...he has the talent/guts to shoot 60 on a Sunday to win a PGA Tour event over a future Hall of Famer or two, but at 37 years old he has a grand total of 1 tour win and 48 made cuts...48 made cuts for a 37 yo is not really lighting it up by Tour standards.  Charles Howell is 4 years younger and has made 275 cuts.

Charles Howell III has been on the tour 12 years.  Gainey first got on the PGA tour in 2007, but I think he might have even lost his card for a bit in there too.

That's not to say that Howell isn't the more consistent player, but we've just seen the start of Gainey's PGA career.  Whether he's a one-win flash in the pan remains to be seen.

Regardless of whether he ever makes another cut, his story is nothing but inspirational.

[Datsyuk]

Originally Posted by wadesworld

Charles Howell III has been on the tour 12 years.  Gainey first got on the PGA tour in 2007, but I think he might have even lost his card for a bit in there too.

That's not to say that Howell isn't the more consistent player, but we've just seen the start of Gainey's PGA career.  Whether he's a one-win flash in the pan remains to be seen.

Regardless of whether he ever makes another cut, his story is nothing but inspirational.

They should rename "Luke Donald disease", "Charles Howell disease" or just "CHIII". The guy seems to always cash a cheque but has a reputation as a phenomenal choker. Maybe too much tinkering with his swing and bag setup. Seems more interested pandering to the peanut gallery at golfwrx than shooting low scores on Sundays.

[MEfree]

Originally Posted by x129

I haven't looked it up but how many cuts do guys on 50-100th on the money list typically make? I am guessing it is around 55-65% which isn't too far off of Gainey's numbers. We tend to get spoiled by guys like Tiger that make 95%+ of the cuts.

Did part of it for you

$ List	Player	Events	Made Cuts	% Made
50	Vijay	27	23	85%
51	Overton	29	22	76%
52	Every	24	14	58%
53	Harrington	18	16	89%
54	Stadler	25	18	72%
96	Estes	23	16	70%
97	Flores	29	17	59%
98	Love III	19	12	63%
99	Romero	22	12	55%
100	Choi	21	16	76%
	Average	237	166	70%
56	Tommy Gainey	31	17	55%

If you looked at all 50, my guess is it would be between 65-72% made cuts...Gainey is 55% this year and was 50% last year when he ranked #35 on the $ list...I am not going to do it, but I doubt there were many guys top 50 on the 2011 $ list with fewer than 50% made cuts.