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Is this a little better? It feels more armsy.

An aside, I'm mystified how some people get secondary axis tilt at the top of the backswing without moving their head.

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@iacas , @Ernest Jones , @Stretch Is this a little better? It feels more armsy. An aside, I'm mystified how some people get secondary axis tilt at the top of the backswing without moving their head.

@nevets88 I am happy to provide an extra set of eyes but keep in mind that I ain't qualified to teach squat! Having said that, I think that looks MUCH better. I'll leave the final word with the pros but I suspect that if you can do that in a full swing your key#1 is solid. Doesn't look too handsy to my untrained eye, you have a pretty full turn by A3. I bet you really feel that extra bit of side bend/stretch from A3 to A4 now eh?

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Thanks @Ernest Jones , ya, feel much more wound up. No way to take a big backswing this way. Head is still going back a bit, but less I think. My thinking is that with less head translation, it'll be easier to get the hands to the ball at A6.

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Is this a little better? It feels more armsy.

An aside, I'm mystified how some people get secondary axis tilt at the top of the backswing without moving their head.

Thanks @Ernest Jones , ya, feel much more wound up. No way to take a big backswing this way. Head is still going back a bit, but less I think. My thinking is that with less head translation, it'll be easier to get the hands to the ball at A6.

Not an amount to worry about, yeah.

P.S. You could still over-swing by folding your elbows and wrists too much. But go with this - it looks great.

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I took a week off because I felt I hit a wall that made the Great Wall of China look like a dollhouse's white picket fence. Had zero compunction to go to the range. Coming back, I felt refreshed and I think I learned a couple of new things.

When I make a better backswing when I feel like I'm not turning the lower body and just getting the hands in and up (really up) and left shoulder back. It's like the X-Factor, which I know has been revised w/caveats but perhaps I've been making such a big hip turn on the backswing, I've been overdoing letting the left hip go. It feels like only my arms are working the backswing when it looks "right" on video. I'm thinking, left shoulder back, lock left hip, hands in, keep right arm over left.

The ugly lunge follow through I have. When I just let the arms swing around me on the follow through, without turning the shoulders towards the target, it looks more like the finishing swing of good players.

Still working on not translating the head back, I can do it without the ball, and like 1/10 times with a ball. When I see I do a 3/4 swing, it feels like a chip shot. It's really ... f**king ... hard ... not to overswing. If I could stop just past A3 all the time, I'd be golden... I think.

Also, I think I'm finally beginning to understand better what instructors like @iacas meant when they told me to fire the arms, karate chop.

Better backswing? Lungy follow through.

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Lunge follow through - bowling for pars! Trying to drive arms - drive everything along with them.

Shank - trying to drive right shoulder too much?

Less lungy, more arms

Reverted to old bs, but better follow through?

Errr, still translating back - get arms higher?

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Head translating back a tad less. Still need to fire arms more.

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Head going forward and down at the start, not getting hips forward enough, look really static-y. Flip city follow through. Gotta keep workin' it.

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Head going forward and down at the start, not getting hips forward enough, look really static-y. Flip city follow through. Gotta keep workin' it.

Dude, don't be too picky.

Let your left shoulder go a bit more horizontal during the takeaway. Hips are far enough forward, but could be a teeny bit more. Keep this up, and don't be too picky. This is looking very good.

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Dude, don't be too picky. Let your left shoulder go a bit more horizontal during the takeaway. Hips are far enough forward, but could be a teeny bit more. Keep this up, and don't be too picky. This is looking very good.

Awesome. So keep this up and it'll be less flippy?

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My best key #1 I think, ever. Last swing of the session - had a half bucket of balls left but had to leave them because of family commitments. Grrrr.... Also, so busy, forgot to wear my golf shoes - those are my street shoes.

Still something funky going on post impact I feel. Can't seem to get the hands all the way behind the head on the follow through.

Not sure which is better. Head is steadier on right though.

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Looks better to me. Camera angles are different, so the left one will look slightly under turned, right one slightly more turned but better for sure.

I think a good way for you to practice this piece is to get the right side of your head against a door jam or even one of those poles in the background and make slow swings, getting 90 degrees of turn by A3 without you head bumping into the pole.

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Gonna do this drill more. Hold backswing in place for a bit, then go. Can get that right hip up higher.

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Nice work there, keep doing that. Just make sure to transfer forward on the downswing.

Thanks. Hope all is well re: wildfires @mvmac . Heard they are dying down.

My tendency is to throw everything forward (esp. upper body)  if I try and transfer forward, but to me, it's pretty glaring on that video that I'm not getting forward enough. Instead of using a pole to keep the head from going back in the BS, I could use it to keep from going forward post impact?

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Thanks. Hope all is well re: wildfires @mvmac. Heard they are dying down.

Everyone is good thanks. Got scary for a little bit but things seem to be under control for now.

Instead of using a pole to keep the head from going back in the BS, I could use it to keep from going forward post impact?

Yeah I struggle with the same thing. The pole feel is a good idea. Really "press" into that left foot so the left knee stays flexed a little longer. Will allow you to push the hips up and forward on the followthrough.

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Head going forward and down at the start, not getting hips forward enough, look really static-y. Flip city follow through. Gotta keep workin' it.


Camera angle shows a good shaft angle at impact, not sure where the flipping your talking about is happening, we have to release the club at some point

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