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I see this first and foremost a safety issue, but also helps to "speed" up the game (like hockey needs speeding up).  Time is wasted in chasing down a puck that will ultimately be called icing and a face off.  Make the call sooner, no one gets hurt and time is spent on playing the game.  A little like the intentional walk in baseball, time wasted throwing four balls to the plate.

Plus, that little bit of time will make it tougher for the icing team to recover. It might be a few seconds, but they can be important.

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Im fine with hybrid icing.  Racing to the endboards for the puck presents considerable risk of injury.

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don't like it at all...but sounds like just another in a long line of Bettman miscues to drive away the traditional hockey fans.  This is very minor comparatively...so why not?

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As you can tell by my name, I am a Carolia Hurricanes fan, and we lost our best D-man for the season due to an injury suffered last April in a race for the puck in a meaningless game. I would take this a step further, and go to no touch icing. This takes all judgement away from the linesman. All in all, if this rule will prevent injuries, I can live with some bad calls.

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don't like it at all...but sounds like just another in a long line of Bettman miscues to drive away the traditional hockey fans.  This is very minor comparatively...so why not?

Let me guess, you don't like visors either? Why don't we bring back hits to the head, too? Plenty of guys want to play in the NHL, so who cares if we maim a few, right?

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As you can tell by my name, I am a Carolia Hurricanes fan, and we lost our best D-man for the season due to an injury suffered last April in a race for the puck in a meaningless game. I would take this a step further, and go to no touch icing. This takes all judgement away from the linesman. All in all, if this rule will prevent injuries, I can live with some bad calls.

I feel like its only a matter of time before we have no-touch icing.  Id like to see the mandate full cages too, not just visors.  I know that a lot of people dont like the idea of players wearing cages but to me, hockey players not wearing cages but college hockey mandates it and you see far fewer injuries from players getting hit in the face with sticks or pucks.

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I would rather have no touch than hybrid. I am noy a fan of judgement calls.

I believe they only judge them when they're obvious.

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Yep. If the offensive player is in the lead, or they're close, the play continues normally.

what/who determines if they are close? I would think the linesman does?  in doing so he is using his judgement hence a judgement call lol


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what/who determines if they are close? I would think the linesman does?  in doing so he is using his judgement hence a judgement call lol

Yes, linesmen. I think you will always have judgement calls in hockey. I'm not against giving refs and linesmen the latitude to use their judgement, I do however wish NHL officiating wasn't so ****ing piss poor in general. Seriously, the worst officiating in all of pro sports, and by a LARGE margin.

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what/who determines if they are close? I would think the linesman does?  in doing so he is using his judgement hence a judgement call lol

There are far more relevant judgment calls in hockey.

If it's not close, the offensive player is not going to win the race 99.99999999% of the time. So this is a particularly pointless argument you're making. If they're close at all, even if the defensive player is still going to win 95% of the time, they let the play continue. It's only when it's obvious that they blow it dead.

How about whether a puck that is possibly icing was "receivable" by a player. That's a judgment call that is far more error prone than the calls with which you're taking issue.

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I would rather have no touch than hybrid. I am noy a fan of judgement calls.

Traditional icing is already a judgment call, so it's a wash in my eyes.

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Yes, linesmen.

I think you will always have judgement calls in hockey.

I'm not against giving refs and linesmen the latitude to use their judgement, I do however wish NHL officiating wasn't so ****ing piss poor in general. Seriously, the worst officiating in all of pro sports, and by a LARGE margin.

Id contend the NFL and NCAA football refs are much worse.  At least in hockey they TRY to get it right, even if they overturn the call.  I can think of a couple recent instances in football where they screwed up, it was obvious they screwed up and the refs refused to make it right or even review it.

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lol the great Erik has spoken it must be correct then.

It's a discussion. If you can't contribute - whether you agree or not I couldn't care less - then shut up. As it relates to icing, I think you're making a pointless argument. That's my opinion, but it's based on the absurdity (opinion again) of your statements in this thread. It does not appear that you've watched any of the pre-season games and have proof of any instance in which the judgment call may have gone wrong. You've seemingly written off an entire concept - with several layers of pros and cons - with the incredibly shallow " I am noy [sic] a fan of judgement [sic] calls. "

Man up and discuss, or shut up, because the only thing "the great Erik has spoken" accomplishes is displaying that you're not capable of thinking at an adult level and need to revert to childish drivel when someone disagrees with you.

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yes you are correct it is a discussion. in post 4 and 5 the new rule was explained by boil3rmak3r and yourself. it s still be a judgement call maybe not all the time but, it still can be. I have learned many things from this forum. sadly one of them is that in your mind your opinion is the only one that's counts. you talk about being a adult and say bite me? lol  a childish comeback indeed!


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