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Chron    3

Hey everyone!

Every time I do a Google search for anything related to golf, this forum has come up and I have already reaped many benefits from reading posts, so I decided it was finally time to join in on the fun. As the title says, I'm from Northern California, specifically from the South Bay Area. I've been around the game of golf since I was a kid, but it has only been in the past couple years that I have become more serious about the game and have been trying to improve. I don't have an official handicap as of now, but I am a bogey golfer who shoots in the 90s (trying really hard to dip into the 80s!!). Really looking forward to being a part of this community and hopefully meeting some people to help push my game to the next level. :-)

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Welcome!  If you have any questions about using the site, check out our "Using the Site" section , and Little Things New Users can learn.

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Chron    3
Welcome. Glad to see another South Bay area guy on here

Are there many South Bay golfers on here? I'm not a great golfer, but I'd love to play with more people.

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There are a few of us. I know that there is a Bay Area golfers group here. We were in the groups section. There was talk of a get together but someone would need to plan it, not sure if it was finalized.

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