Political Correctness - How Far Should it Go? Should the Washington Redskins change their name?

[David in FL]

You shut your mouth, David!!!

I seem to be getting that a lot these days. :-D

[Golfingdad]

I guess if we're thinking about things in relative terms, the Washington Redskins aren't that bad at all ...

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/forget-redskins-high-school-california-mascot-least-offensive-113535243.html

[iacas]

[dsc123]

Its a pretty good commercial and I hope it sways some people.  Its just a matter of time.  I think Snyder would be wise to bite the bullet and move on rather than wasting all this time and energy fighting it.

[Golfingdad]

Its a pretty good commercial and I hope it sways some people.  Its just a matter of time.  I think Snyder would be wise to bite the bullet and move on rather than wasting all this time and energy fighting it.

Agree.  It was a pretty powerful commercial, and I think if Snyder continues to fight his (losing - it's inevitable I think) battle, he's just going to come off worse in the end.

[Gunther]

It's important to take a stand here because this PC bs has to stop somewhere. Who cares if someone is "offended"? What the hell does that word even mean? This moron of a president "offends" me with virtually every word out of his mouth, not to mention his actions. So what? I get up, go to work, play golf, live my life. The damn Indians don't even care about this for God's sake! They have other, more important things to overcome in their lives, as I suspect the rest of the country does as well. It's a non-issue created by libs who are in no way affected by the name Redskins. Thank you, that felt pretty good.

[iacas]

The damn Indians don't even care about this for God's sake! They have other, more important things to overcome in their lives, as I suspect the rest of the country does as well. It's a non-issue created by libs who are in no way affected by the name Redskins.

Did you watch the video?

[dsc123]

It's a non-issue created by libs who are in no way affected by the name Redskins.

May I ask what evidence you base this statement on?

[dsc123]

It seems so simple to me.  None of you who support keeping the team's name would meet a native american and call them a "Redskin" to their face because you know its offensive.  Every dictionary defines it as an offensive or slang term for native american.  Is that part of some liberal conspiracy?  Many native american organizations have come out against it.  There may be some Native Americans who don't mind it, but that doesn't make the word inoffensive, nor does it invalidate the opinions of the rest of the world.

I know Snyder came up with some Chief who came out to say that its not offensive , but then it came out that the guy was not actually a chief .  Then he paraded out 4 Navajo Code Talkers who supported the team, but the Navajo Nation Council came out against it.  I've got to think the later is more representative.  When the person who is most invested in keeping the name can't do better than that, why don't you question his motives?  Choosing to view the opposition as a liberal conspiracy but not recognizing that the other side is mostly just one guy trying to protect his own pocket is willfully ignorant.

[Gunther]

Did you watch the video?

Did not, at work. I will view tonight and if it shows that people are actually harmed by the name of a sports team, I will gladly change my tune.

[Golfingdad]

... that people are actually harmed by the name of a sports team, I will gladly change my tune.

No need to bother.  It's pretty clear you've already made up your mind.  Of course nobody is "harmed" by a team name, but what the heck kind of barometer is that?

The San Diego Padres could change their name to the San Diego ***kfaces next week and I think it's safe to say that wouldn't harm anybody.  Doesn't make it right though.

[mvmac]

They have other, more important things to overcome in their lives, as I suspect the rest of the country does as well.

Yes they certainly have things to overcome, like people calling them "damn Indians" in 2014.

[Gunther]

No need to bother.  It's pretty clear you've already made up your mind.  Of course nobody is "harmed" by a team name, but what the heck kind of barometer is that? The San Diego Padres could change their name to the San Diego ***kfaces next week and I think it's safe to say that wouldn't harm anybody.  Doesn't make it right though.

Yes, if it doesn't show that then I don't believe it'll sway me. Keep in mind that I was diagnosed with low T levels yesterday and my doc said aggressive behavior on message boards would provide a boost; hence my earlier rant. I do think my count went up a couple points but now I'm back to my normal benign self.

[14ledo81]

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Originally Posted by Gunther

... that people are actually harmed by the name of a sports team, I will gladly change my tune.

No need to bother.  It's pretty clear you've already made up your mind.  Of course nobody is "harmed" by a team name, but what the heck kind of barometer is that?

The San Diego Padres could change their name to the San Diego ***kfaces next week and I think it's safe to say that wouldn't harm anybody.  Doesn't make it right though.

I tend to think it could harm some younger, impressionable ones.  Depends on how you define "harm".  I would not want my kids reading about the San Diego ***kfaces.

[Golfingdad]

I tend to think it could harm some younger, impressionable ones.  Depends on how you define "harm".  I would not want my kids reading about the San Diego ***kfaces.

The extension of that, though, would be whether or not you're OK with your kids reading about the Redskins.  (It's a lot more specifically offensive than my example - which would really only be offensive to the players on the team)

You don't impress upon them at a young age that the word is offensive and derogatory, and then they grow up like we did; basically oblivious to the fact that this is an offensive and racist term.

[mvmac]

I tend to think it could harm some younger, impressionable ones.  Depends on how you define "harm".  I would not want my kids reading about the San Diego ***kfaces.

If you live in San Diego that's what you end up calling them anyway

[Golfingdad]

If you live in San Diego that's what you end up calling them anyway

That's why I chose them!!  I have several pet names for them, and coincidentally (not) they are ALL offensive!!!!!!!!!!!

[14ledo81]

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Originally Posted by 14ledo81

I tend to think it could harm some younger, impressionable ones.  Depends on how you define "harm".  I would not want my kids reading about the San Diego ***kfaces.

The extension of that, though, would be whether or not you're OK with your kids reading about the Redskins.  (It's a lot more specifically offensive than my example - which would really only be offensive to the players on the team)

You don't impress upon them at a young age that the word is offensive and derogatory, and then they grow up like we did; basically oblivious to the fact that this is an offensive and racist term.

I think this can go for a lot of things.  I really feel the need to try to teach "right and wrong" at a young age.  Once the child is older, it is probably to late.

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Originally Posted by 14ledo81

I tend to think it could harm some younger, impressionable ones.  Depends on how you define "harm".  I would not want my kids reading about the San Diego ***kfaces.

If you live in San Diego that's what you end up calling them anyway

Yeah, other than the Packers, we don't have much hope for sports teams here.