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Appreciate the confirmation.

My son never practices lag putts because he tells me that he's never that far from the pin on his first putt. Yeah, sure. . .

I suppose if his chipping is good, but he hits greens from approach shots, too, doesn't he? Just FYI, the median player on the PGA Tour is 22'5" from the pin on approaches from 125-150 yards.

Long putting (>25') is an SV2 skill, so it's definitely worth working on. Your son should know this, unless you've been holding out on him ;-)

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Appreciate the confirmation.

My son never practices lag putts because he tells me that he's never that far from the pin on his first putt. Yeah, sure. . .

I suppose if his chipping is good, but he hits greens from approach shots, too, doesn't he? Just FYI, the median player on the PGA Tour is 22'5" from the pin on approaches from 125-150 yards.

Long putting (>25') is an SV2 skill, so it's definitely worth working on. Your son should know this, unless you've been holding out on him

I have to have some edge when I play against him. :whistle:

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My son never practices lag putts because he tells me that he's never that far from the pin on his first putt. Yeah, sure. . .

So he has the worst approach shot in the history of golf?  Or, in other words, he has never once gotten on the green from further than 15 yards off? ;-)

Cause, ya know, otherwise he's way better than anyone who's ever played on tour...

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My son never practices lag putts because he tells me that he's never that far from the pin on his first putt. Yeah, sure. . .

So he has the worst approach shot in the history of golf?  Or, in other words, he has never once gotten on the green from further than 15 yards off?

Cause, ya know, otherwise he's way better than anyone who's ever played on tour...

Nah, I've played with him recently. He gets about 10 GIR, and very few of them are so close that he doesn't need to lag putt. He just tells me that he never needs to practice them. :-D

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Well, I finally got the Sony Action Cam to take on course video. One potential limitation is the battery life (120 minutes). Thinking of getting another one to take FO and DTL simultaneously and allow for continued on course coverage with 240 minutes total battery life with two cameras. Just started working on figuring out how to use it effectively.

Also, got access to an Optitrak , and will see if it makes any sense to use it for evaluating my swing?

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Well, I finally got the Sony Action Cam to take on course video. One potential limitation is the battery life (120 minutes). Thinking of getting another one to take FO and DTL simultaneously and allow for continued on course coverage with 240 minutes total battery life with two cameras. Just started working on figuring out how to use it effectively.

Also, got access to an Optitrak, and will see if it makes any sense to use it for evaluating my swing?

Lesson learned, don't use a short tripod. All the video I took this morning is butt view. I'm going to make something that clips on an alignment rod or something to take video on the range better. FO is going to be a little challenge for the range when they use mats.

Great news is that V1 seems to work with 2 Sony camera s according to the documentation. Going to have to look into this more.

EDIT: $1695, wow!

The good news is Sony has some SW that takes multiple Action camera video and combines them into one video. Going to need to look into that and see if I can make it work with V1 or some other SW.

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Also, got access to an Optitrak, and will see if it makes any sense to use it for evaluating my swing?

It might be cool to do but I doubt you'll see any added value over using a camera. I don't think any new information on what you need to work on will be "revealed". Not saying don't do it, just don't expect too much.

Lesson learned, don't use a short tripod. All the video I took this morning is butt view. I'm going to make something that clips on an alignment rod or something to take video on the range better. FO is going to be a little challenge for the range when they use mats.

Great news is that V1 seems to work with 2 Sony cameras according to the documentation. Going to have to look into this more.

EDIT: $1695, wow!

The good news is Sony has some SW that takes multiple Action camera video and combines them into one video. Going to need to look into that and see if I can make it work with V1 or some other SW.

This is the way to go if you have Mac products.

http://analyzrgolf.com/

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Originally Posted by Lihu

Also, got access to an Optitrak, and will see if it makes any sense to use it for evaluating my swing?

It might be cool to do but I doubt you'll see any added value over using a camera. I don't think any new information on what you need to work on will be "revealed". Not saying don't do it, just don't expect too much.

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Lesson learned, don't use a short tripod. All the video I took this morning is butt view. I'm going to make something that clips on an alignment rod or something to take video on the range better. FO is going to be a little challenge for the range when they use mats.

Great news is that V1 seems to work with 2 Sony cameras according to the documentation. Going to have to look into this more.

EDIT: $1695, wow!

The good news is Sony has some SW that takes multiple Action camera video and combines them into one video. Going to need to look into that and see if I can make it work with V1 or some other SW.

This is the way to go if you have Mac products.

http://analyzrgolf.com/

Thanks, I'll take a look at analyzrgolf.

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Thanks, I'll take a look at analyzrgolf.

It's what I have always used, so you know it's idiot proof ;-)

@iacas co-created and developed it.

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So, the good news is multiple cameras can be controlled from the Sony SW. I played around with the remote control on my phone through wifi. Sony SW also tiles the videos together and time syncs them. I'm looking into gps features in the phone SW to see if I can use it for tracking shot filming locations. The plan is to take FO and DTL videos for every shot on the course. Going to try to make the setup process quick and seamless. If I can record the GPS location with the phone that would be perfect.

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So, the good news is multiple cameras can be controlled from the Sony SW. I played around with the remote control on my phone through wifi. Sony SW also tiles the videos together and time syncs them. I'm looking into gps features in the phone SW to see if I can use it for tracking shot filming locations. The plan is to take FO and DTL videos for every shot on the course. Going to try to make the setup process quick and seamless. If I can record the GPS location with the phone that would be perfect.

You are truly the mad scientist my friend!

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[quote name="Lihu" url="/t/71030/my-swing-lihu/620_10#post_1193544"]So, the good news is multiple cameras can be controlled from the Sony SW. I played around with the remote control on my phone through wifi. Sony SW also tiles the videos together and time syncs them. I'm looking into gps features in the phone SW to see if I can use it for tracking shot filming locations. The plan is to take FO and DTL videos for every shot on the course. Going to try to make the setup process quick and seamless. If I can record the GPS location with the phone that would be perfect.

You are truly the mad scientist my friend!

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I think next you need to implement shot tracer technology to your DTL camera.

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I think next you need to implement shot tracer technology to your DTL camera.

Seriously, how cool would it be for every golfer to have that in their vlogs? :banana:

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More stretches and some golf swings with the mirror.

No ball and the transition looks reasonable, with the ball my swing plane changes. I'm working on trying to initiate the action with my hips again. It's like I forget it almost immediately after I stop doing drills. So, every ball I hit, I am planning on working on a smoother transition originating from the hips as I am practicing now.

It's so much easier to make a decent swing when there's no ball involved. :-X

Really bad range session, but at least I'm not making that quirky thing at the top. Now, I need to focus on the lateral motion, and while actually hitting a ball.

So, the hard range balls spin more with longer clubs (probably by design, duh). This seems to be why distances start to "compress".

Getting a second camera next week for 2 axis range work and extended vlogs. . .

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I'd like to have shot tracer technology. Buy it for me.

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I'd like to have shot tracer technology. Buy it for me.

From the descriptions, it looks like very high resolution cameras essentially doing frame subtraction to locate any moving objects in the FOV of the camera. They seem to use 2 of them to triangulate the distances.

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LSW is more amazing than I thought. What I learned at the clinic made a lot of things click.

Drives are straighter and consistently longer. Working on getting my irons distances commensurate to my new driver average. When I get excited, my irons go to crap. Need to figure out my proper "tempo", slow down and relax. Those swings help the balls go the furthest and straightest.

Working on my new putting stroke, which seems to have improved my lag putts.

Game management/shot zones are next on my list.

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