Baseball HOF

[golfbarefoot]

I'm dying laughing you are comparing Biggio to George Brett, Derek Jeter, Cal Ripken... Lol!! Cmon... I'm happy for Biggio... But seriously... Look at what manny Ramirez did.....

[dsc123]

I'm dying laughing you are comparing Biggio to Geirge Brett, Derek Jeter, Cal Ripken... Lol!!

Why's that?

 Player      Yrs  WAR   G    AB    R    H   2B  3B  HR  RBI  BB   SO    BA   OBP   SLG   SB   CS OPS+ 
+---++-------------------+---------+--+-----+----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+----+----+----+-----+-----+----
 
  Craig Biggio
 
 20  65.1 2850 10876 1844 3060 668  55 291 1175 1160 1753  .281  .363  .433  414 124  112
 
  
   Derek Jeter
  
 
 20  71.8 2747 11195 1923 3465 544  66 260 1311 1082 1840  .310  .377  .440  358  97  115
 
  Cal Ripken
 
 21  95.5 3001 11551 1647 3184 603  44 431 1695 1129 1305  .276  .340  .447   36  39  112
 
  George Brett
 
 21  88.4 2707 10349 1583 3154 665 137 317 1596 1096  908  .305  .369  .487  201  97  135

Him and Jeter are very similar.  Jeter had a higher ba, but Biggio makes up most of that in OBP.  His SLG is pretty close, too.  OPS+ is almost the same.  Biggio didn't play SS, but he did play catcher, 2B, and CF.

Ripken played in more games but had fewer, R, H, 2B, 3B, BB, SB.  Ripken had more home runs and drove in more RBIs. Same OPS+

I'm not saying he's better than those guys, but he's in their ballpark.  And what about the other hall of famers on the list, like Roberto Alomar?

[golfbarefoot]

You're cracking me up. I played 2nd base throughout college, so I have an appreciation for what Biggio did, happy for him and pull for the little guys and biggio was a solid ball player. But seriously take off your autographed Biggio jersey for a sec and look who you're comparing him to? It's hilarious man. Why not just compare him to Ted Williams too since neither won a ring...? Let's look at those stats.. Lol..Not taking a dig at biggio, I'm really just saying HOF is a watered down joke. My point is either you play statistics games like you're trying, base it on popularity too... Or if you want to purely induct players on stats and impact to the game...like they should.... That's different. Drunk writers voting against players who hurt their teams is a joke... Right??? Chew on this one... Ted Williams was also completely left off a MVP ballot one year... Completely!!! and by the way that year... He led the league in home runs.. RBIs and Battting average and won the triple crown!!! But got left off the ballot completely by a drunk writer?!? Leaving him completely off cost him the MVP award.... It's all a joke. That's what I'm saying. You can't have both... And if you play statistics games... Let's play Pete Rose, Clemens, Bonds, Cobb, Ramirez etc etc... It's a JOKE... and a watered down waste. That's all. Congrats to biggio, much less deserving players than he will make it to the HOF too one day... Trust me... Lol!! That's my opinion on baseball HOF I have nothing else to say.

[dsc123]

You're cracking me up. I played 2nd base throughout college, so I have an appreciation for what Biggio did, happy for him and pull for the little guys and biggio was a solid ball player. But seriously take off your autographed Biggio jersey for a sec and look who you're comparing him to? It's hilarious man. Not taking a dig at biggio, I'm really just saying HOF is a watered down joke.

My point is either you play statistics games like you're trying.. or you base it on popularity too...

You can't have both... And if you play statistics games... Let's play Pete Rose, Clemens, Bonds, Cobb, Ramirez etc etc... It's a JOKE... and a watered down waste. That's all. Congrats to biggie, much less deserving than he will make it to the HOF... Trust me... Lol!!

I responded because I was hoping you'd explain your comment, not just repeat it.  Oh well.

[jamo]

You're cracking me up. I played 2nd base throughout college, so I have an appreciation for what Biggio did, happy for him and pull for the little guys and biggio was a solid ball player. But seriously take off your autographed Biggio jersey for a sec and look who you're comparing him to? It's hilarious man. Why not just compare him to Ted Williams too since neither won a ring...? Let's look at those stats.. Lol..Not taking a dig at biggio, I'm really just saying HOF is a watered down joke. My point is either you play statistics games like you're trying, base it on popularity too... Or if you want to purely induct players on stats and impact to the game...like they should.... That's different. Drunk writers voting against players who hurt their teams is a joke... Right??? Chew on this one... Ted Williams was also completely left off a MVP ballot one year... Completely!!! and by the way that year... He led the league in home runs.. RBIs and Battting average and won the triple crown!!! But got left off the ballot completely by a drunk writer?!? Leaving him completely off cost him the MVP award.... It's all a joke. That's what I'm saying. You can't have both... And if you play statistics games... Let's play Pete Rose, Clemens, Bonds, Cobb, Ramirez etc etc... It's a JOKE... and a watered down waste. That's all. Congrats to biggio, much less deserving players than he will make it to the HOF too one day... Trust me... Lol!! That's my opinion on baseball HOF I have nothing else to say.

All that about a museum that is meaningless to you.

[golfbarefoot]

No. The baseball HOF is a watered down joke... exactly like I said.