My Swing (Shindig)

[ShaftFarmer]

4 minutes ago, Shindig said:

Thank you;  can you explain what's going on in the picture a bit more?  

I think what it's getting at is you don't want the left arm to be pushed up against the chest on the backswing. Instead you want some space between your upper left arm and your chest. To me, that means starting my shoulder turn earlier in the swing so the arms aren't already "across" my chest. 

Not sure if that's correct so take it with a gran of salt

[Grizvok]

12 minutes ago, Shindig said:

Thank you;  can you explain what's going on in the picture a bit more?  

Skip to 7:55 in the video.

 

[Shindig]

20 minutes ago, Grizvok said:

Skip to 7:55 in the video.

 

Okay.  I think I see the difference, but I don't quite know what to do differently.

I'm playing later today, so I'm going to put this out of my head for now, and come back to it after the round. 

Also, question mostly for @iacas -- would it be appropriate for me to bring this up on Evolvr as something I'd like to work on?  Or is it something I'd work on separately from that priority work (kind of like how I eventually will get through the April monthly challenge)?

[Shindig]

And now I wonder if this is part of why whenever I measure driver swing speed (including when hitting a ball at the range and measuring, not just free swings) it's mid-90s but I rarely have a round with driver average over 210, and drives over 215 (regardless of average) are rare.  Driver is a 10.5 adjusted to 9.75 (setting D1, head is 10.5).

[Grizvok]

54 minutes ago, Shindig said:

And now I wonder if this is part of why whenever I measure driver swing speed (including when hitting a ball at the range and measuring, not just free swings) it's mid-90s but I rarely have a round with driver average over 210, and drives over 215 (regardless of average) are rare.  Driver is a 10.5 adjusted to 9.75 (setting D1, head is 10.5).

I’m a god awful public speaker, but I made a short video to hopefully explain that picture a bit better and some things I did to really feel how big the difference is.

 

[iacas]

So…

9 hours ago, Shindig said:

Also, question mostly for @iacas -- would it be appropriate for me to bring this up on Evolvr as something I'd like to work on?  Or is it something I'd work on separately from that priority work (kind of like how I eventually will get through the April monthly challenge)?

I'd start working on this subtly. It's going to be what you do pretty soon in Evolvr.

Don't make it your primary focus at all, but work on it a bit now and then.

[Shindig]

8 hours ago, Grizvok said:

I’m a god awful public speaker, but I made a short video to hopefully explain that picture a bit better and some things I did to really feel how big the difference is.

 

That did help.  And wow, even just watching it I can see the difference.  Thanks for taking the time to make that video!

1 hour ago, iacas said:

So…

I'd start working on this subtly. It's going to be what you do pretty soon in Evolvr.

Don't make it your primary focus at all, but work on it a bit now and then.

Thanks.  Will do! 

[Shindig]

Latest swing videos (filmed yesterday morning, just sent to evolvr just now).   I haven't made any changes from @Grizvok's video, but I do occasionally make a few swings with that arm change.  I am definitely doing what is described there as the amateur style (also, you're a better public speaker than you give yourself credit for). 

 

 

 

[Grizvok]

I'm not sure if this is valid, but it is something I don't typically see from professionals. You are pretty much forced to change your inclination to the ground in the early backswing to get into a good spot.

 

[brianb9986]

On 7/26/2020 at 3:18 PM, Grizvok said:

I’m a god awful public speaker, but I made a short video to hopefully explain that picture a bit better and some things I did to really feel how big the difference is.

 

Thanks for posting this, this is very helpful and something I'll be working on at my next session.

[Shindig]

I just sent these into Evolvr, so I'm not asking for comment, so much as using this thread as a swing diary whenever I remember to do so.

 

and

 

[iacas]

On 7/5/2022 at 7:59 PM, Shindig said:

I just sent these into Evolvr

Did you trim them to just the swing? 🙂

[Shindig]

14 minutes ago, iacas said:

Did you trim them to just the swing? 🙂

No.  I can do that now if you'd prefer that I do.

 

I added this to Evolvr, adding it here now too.  Starting point of the relevant part of the videos.

CV drill, begins 1:07

DTL drill, begins 1:17

CV full 1:10

DTL full 1:03

I'll get back in the habit of trimming these in the future. 

[Shindig]

On 7/6/2022 at 8:08 PM, iacas said:

Did you trim them to just the swing? 🙂

I have now!

 

 

[Shindig]

I want to keep a diary of swing speed, 7-iron and driver, measured periodically.  I figured this thread is where I'm most likely to find the data when I go back and wonder what it was in July 2022 or whatever, and since this thread is about my swing, this is on topic.

A month or so ago, my driver swing speed was 93 mph (several swings all in the 92-94 mph range).  Today, six swings, in numerical order were 92-95-96-97-97-100.  Let's call it 96 or 97 mph.  This is after almost a full month of 3x/week Fit for Golf, getting back into speed sticks, and a month of practice from an Evolvr lesson, and some combination of each of those contributed to a better / more efficient / faster swing.  

7-iron, let's call today's measurement 70 (there were two outliers that weren't 70 or 71).  

[Shindig]

Can someone tell me if these are good enough, from the point of view of recording?  

My plan was to get back on Evolvr when I'm home from vacation (two weeks from now);  instead, I'll get involved with Erik's Skillest setup.  Weekly check-ins sound good.

The following videos were recorded on my Pixel 6A, landscape mode, quarter speed.  I also took videos from the same positions at 1/8 speed (if these didn't capture enough frames), and I can upload those too.  It's been a long time since I've gotten videos for lessons (or really just about anything), and I was never very good at the camera side, so any feedback on that is definitely appreciated.   

(EDIT: I forgot to add, the videos were intending of me swinging at the speed I'd swing on the course, not my "work on a priority piece" swing speed)

More about where I am, golf-wise, is after the videos.  In the short term, my misses tend to be pulls with the occasional hook and a *very rare* fade (almost never a push).

These videos were trimmed to be as much of "just the swing" as possible, erring on the side of leaving more.  The first was after some searching for video editing software this morning, the DTL was when I realized I can just do the editing on my phone.  Welcome to the 21st century, Michael, we have the internet on computers now. 

Videos both have me swinging a 6-iron, Ping G400, 26.5 degrees of loft.

 

and also Down the Line:

 

 

Okay, so, what's going on with my golf lately?

I haven't really practiced much purposefully in about three years, and I have barely played in that time.  Three years (and a month or so) ago, I won my flight of my club championship for the second consecutive year, had 54 holes (out of 54) without hitting sand in that run, had putter in hand for 52 of 53 par attempts (I made one birdie the entire tournament).  My handicap was down to 11.9.  This was after many years of Evolvr lessons (and, before that, some great help on this thread!), which started when I was about a 19 handicap, although there are some periods in that range where I wasn't practicing regularly.  

Since then, I've played an average of less than one round per month and went several months without playing and in some cases, without even hitting balls.  This was despite having a room of my house with a mat and a net (I can hit a hybrid in there, 4w maybe, driver probably not;  no launch monitor or simulator anyway).    Something changed in my head after the Masters a few months ago and I admitted to myself that I have not been prioritizing golf, my favorite hobby, at all, and the rest of what has taken up my time hasn't been worth it.  

I played a lot more since then and, after confirming to myself that yes, I will make this have time in my schedule, I'm going to get back to lessons and commit to the system again. 

My SG:OTT and SG:A lately tend to group towards about the 10 handicap baseline, despite that my handicap is up to 15.  I'd like to get both numbers down;  full swing for long term improvement, and I'll also be doing some putting practice (where I lose the most strokes) over the coming months, probably a little higher than proportion to the 65-20-15 rule.  But really, I've had several rounds with 10+ GIR (on 6000-6200 yard courses) and scores in the mid to high 80s to go with them.  

I think of these as "before" videos.  Some of my friends have lost a lot of weight and they wish they had taken pictures of themselves before they undertook this, to show the contrast.   I guess this is either "before" getting back to practice or "after" a long period without meaningful practice.

What do I see in the video?  Maybe the DTL should have been portrait mode instead, or taken from a bit higher up, as the clubhead seems to disappear.  I'm not sure if that would affect a pro's analysis.  

I also see that wow, my backswing is super long.  I am guessing that getting that under control is going to be a priority piece at some point, but I'm not sure I trust myself to diagnose my own swing (maybe I should start trying to?)

Edited September 5, 2025 by Shindig

[iacas]

I'll read over more later, but yes… those are sufficient. I think since you've signed up for Skillest you can actually just use the app to record.

[Shindig]

2 minutes ago, iacas said:

I'll read over more later, but yes… those are sufficient. I think since you've signed up for Skillest you can actually just use the app to record.

That's good to know.  I just sent these (well, a re-clipped version of FO) there.  I'll check out using the app next time I take video.