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It's not just binary.

The formula takes into account how high you are and many many many other things. The formula is not public, the documents referred to above are just the public facing simplified explanations.

I wondered why I couldn't find any links to it. . .

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Mr. iacas,

In your opinion do you think the altitude adjustment is appropriate?  Just anecdotally It sure doesn't seem enough to me, but I will yield to someone who knows what he's talking about.

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In your opinion do you think the altitude adjustment is appropriate?  Just anecdotally It sure doesn't seem enough to me, but I will yield to someone who knows what he's talking about.


I don't know. I don't know what adjustment they make.

But I would tend to believe that they know how much farther the ball flies.

For example, if we have a fairway that's sloping up at the edges, and it's 25 yards wide, we can write down that the fairway "plays" 30 yards wide. If a tee shot is downhill, the scratch golfer can be "forced to lay up" even if a pond is at 260 (when normally they can only hit it 250).

I'm sure they know how far altitude lets players hit the ball. Pretty basic stuff.

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This is an old thread, but a question came up on another thread:

Rather than asking an off-topic question in that thread, I thought I'd post in a thread where it would be a bit more on-topic.

@iacas (or others): When a rating crew looks at the course, do they review the local rules? Do they inform the course if the local rules don't conform to the RoG? Do (or can) they do anything if the course says "point noted, but we like our local rule(s) just fine they way they are, conforming or not, and we're not changing"?

 

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1 hour ago, Missouri Swede said:

 

@iacas (or others):

1) When a rating crew looks at the course, do they review the local rules?

2) Do they inform the course if the local rules don't conform to the RoG?

Do (or can) they do anything if the course says "point noted, but we like our local rule(s) just fine they way they are, conforming or not, and we're not changing"?

 

1) Yes but if they don't conform they ignore them when rating.

2) Yes. They should.

3) I guess the USGA have the ultimate sanction of revoking their licence to allocate USGA handicaps. But I have no idea if they have ever done so.

In the UK, I gather from others, the warning has been sufficient to change their mind but in my experience, the clubs are grateful for the information and are happy to have an 'official' course. We usually do an unannounced spot check if we have any doubts.

 

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On 11/3/2014 at 2:17 PM, MrFlipper said:

Hey thanks. Clicked that link. Other than the bolded words above, nothing more specific. Do they guide on a sliding scale based on the altitude, or is it just binary above/below 2,000 feet? And does anyone know the adjustment factors they use?

Maybe they are already on top of this and I am pushing a non-point, but I'm not giving up yet :-)

Old post, but I saw you are still active. I came across what you were looking for in some of my own research. Short answer the numbers match what I've seen elsewhere for distance gain from elevation (on the drive at least).

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