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  On 11/16/2024 at 1:30 PM, GolfLug said:

Nothing exposes low point control, and for that matter the general quality of ball striking like tight lies. Lol!

I am at a crossroad. My days of playing with a super strong left hand grip are coming to an end it seems. I'm finding it increasingly difficult to maintain proper face control through impact as the club face naturally wants to turn over. The quality of strike and ball flight difference when I weaken the grip is stark. Problem is a weaker grip is at odds with my poor sore left forearm which I have been nursing for last few days after 3 days of demanding golf. As of now I will continue my 'transition' to a weaker grip with woods and hopefully my forearm will condition as I go along. Maybe someday I'll get to a normal address with irons too. 

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Why don't you grip it "open" so you can return your hand to the place where you're comfortable/not sore, but the ball won't go left? It's effectively weaker… without actually "being" weaker?

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  On 11/16/2024 at 8:57 PM, iacas said:

Why don't you grip it "open" so you can return your hand to the place where you're comfortable/not sore, but the ball won't go left? It's effectively weaker… without actually "being" weaker?

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A strong grip cups the wrist (lead) and then it wants to flatten through impact, something I used to be able to avoid to keep it from going left and protecting my forearm (the main premise of my set up). Longer the club, harder it is becoming. Either way, yes, I need to transition to gripping it open. 

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The driver swing honestly feels good. Haven't played in a/the course for a bit but did pretty good at the sim place yesterday. 

The idea has been to reduce twisting shaft instinctively at impact. For this have weakened left hand grip considerably. Pushed higher up in the hollow of the palm to take out index finger and thumb in pressure application which is a major are major contributors of shaft twisting at impact. On the flip side, right hand grip is way down in the lower part of the middle fingers. Not using index or thumb much at all. It also is designed to prevent getting underneath the shaft too much at impact. More of a float-loady  'paint the ball' feel through the ball.

Overall address and neutral grip keeps both lead and trail sides on respective sides of the shaft instead of over or underneath the shaft. It seems it allows/promotes moving the shaft/club unit in unison with wrist/elbow/shoulder joints similar to an elephant swinging it's trunk. It does not feel like I am guiding the club path or trying to control club face at all. Fairly organic.

Playing TPC Sawgrass in about a month. Will see how it all holds up. I hear its a good test.. heh.

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Butt up against couch pillow and slight wrist 'drop' at start of A4 to A5.

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You need to push into it, not let it push you forward toward the ball.

Stand with your left hip 1" away from a countertop and make a simulated swing there, where your left hip doesn't touch the countertop.

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  On 1/13/2025 at 2:15 AM, iacas said:

Stand with your left hip 1" away from a countertop and make a simulated swing there, where your left hip doesn't touch the countertop.

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As seen from a FO perspective, yes?

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  On 1/13/2025 at 3:37 PM, GolfLug said:

As seen from a FO perspective, yes?

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Down the line.

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Trying to feel bit more external rotation of the trail elbow at A4. I think better than what have ever been able to position it.  Forward lunge at impact still a work in progress. 

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Not sure what's different, and FWIW am not working on anything specific. Just flow. Finally a break. Found something last weekend. This is the best I have swung in a few months. Hit 9 fairways last Sundays and 11 yesterday. JIT for peak season..😊

 

 

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I know not the best angle but yesterday (shot 5.8 differential/no sixes) was the best I've struck the ball consistently for an entire round. Single thought is to let the humerus joint be the singular fulcrum for the entire swing. Trail hand/arm structure/torso/shoulders....basically  everything simply goes along just for a ride. No downswing thoughts/feels.

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One of my goals this year is to get over my fear of the dreaded 3W (off the deck). Admittedly I top half of my on-course attempts with this club. Here my check list is low hands with noodle arms. Tad cramped but tall posture. And then simply pivot the back swing around the good ol lead humerus (as the fulcrum) to high hands with a long one and a short two mental metronome count back and through impact. I have always come out of posture incline at A4 but not sure it hurts or how much of a priority it is at this point.

IMHO this club is unforgiving of half ass attempts so being competent with the 3W off the deck consistently needs a lot of things to done right, especially a good tempo and firing the trail hand with proper timing. You simply cannot rush this club.

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Nice job on the solid round. It's always nice to have a "play better right now" feel.

The backswing looks a tad better with the early extension. Don't forget about that stuff tho. You can still incorporate that into your practice while still doing the stuff you play better with in the short term. If you need to simplify it, just focus on the trail glute pushing back into the wall for now until that is better ingrained. I don't think it'll negatively interfere with your ability to play well in the short term and it's probably fine to abandon the thought for your humerus feel when you play rounds.

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I have no comments on your swing, but my wrists hurt just from looking at your mat setup @GolfLug 😜

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  On 5/26/2025 at 5:47 PM, JetFan1983 said:

Nice job on the solid round. It's always nice to have a "play better right now" feel.

The backswing looks a tad better with the early extension. Don't forget about that stuff tho. You can still incorporate that into your practice while still doing the stuff you play better with in the short term. If you need to simplify it, just focus on the trail glute pushing back into the wall for now until that is better ingrained. I don't think it'll negatively interfere with your ability to play well in the short term and it's probably fine to abandon the thought for your humerus feel when you play rounds.

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Appreciate the input. Thoughtful and on-point as usual.

Truth be told, bit frustrated with my work towards the glute piece for over a year. Have struggled to break 90 on a lot of occasions this year after a stellar season last year all the way up until December. It got bad enough where I have a soft cap on my index at the moment. Finally focused on cleaning up arm structure last couple of weeks just to get back to a playable level for now which, immediately cleaned up my on-course play. But do agree that I can probably do both now that I have a bit of oxygen.

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  On 5/28/2025 at 10:53 AM, GolfLug said:

Appreciate the input. Thoughtful and on-point as usual.

Truth be told, bit frustrated with my work towards the glute piece for over a year. Have struggled to break 90 on a lot of occasions this year after a stellar season last year all the way up until December. It got bad enough where I have a soft cap on my index at the moment. Finally focused on cleaning up arm structure last couple of weeks just to get back to a playable level for now which, immediately cleaned up my on-course play. But do agree that I can probably do both now that I have a bit of oxygen.

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Don't stop doing what you do well, but… yes, the pelvis stuff is still pretty big. Get your weight where it needs to be at setup. Do a lot of practice by a countertop.

 

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  On 5/28/2025 at 11:52 AM, iacas said:

Don't stop doing what you do well, but… yes, the pelvis stuff is still pretty big. Get your weight where it needs to be at setup. Do a lot of practice by a countertop.

 

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That is a really good drill. Never thought of approaching it using a 'spacer' on the front. I feel like I will have more success incorporating with this. Thanks! 

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  On 5/26/2025 at 1:57 PM, GolfLug said:

One of my goals this year is to get over my fear of the dreaded 3W (off the deck). Admittedly I top half of my on-course attempts with this club. Here my check list is low hands with noodle arms. Tad cramped but tall posture. And then simply pivot the back swing around the good ol lead humerus (as the fulcrum) to high hands with a long one and a short two mental metronome count back and through impact. I have always come out of posture incline at A4 but not sure it hurts or how much of a priority it is at this point.

IMHO this club is unforgiving of half ass attempts so being competent with the 3W off the deck consistently needs a lot of things to done right, especially a good tempo and firing the trail hand with proper timing. You simply cannot rush this club.

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I got fitted for the long game earlier this year. Just below driver I now have a 7W instead of a 3W. I had looked at a 5W, but it was only going 10 yards less that the 7W. 

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