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I'm currently working on banking the right foot as I've had a problem with popping it up on the toe to early for a long time and this is the next piece my coach has my working on. My question is though, what are the benefits of banking the right foot in the downswing and keeping it on the ground through till or just past impact?
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I'm currently working on banking the right foot as I've had a problem with popping it up on the toe to early for a long time and this is the next piece my coach has my working on.

My question is though, what are the benefits of banking the right foot in the downswing and keeping it on the ground through till or just past impact?

Helps with the turning rates on the downswing and into the followthrough. When the golfer lifts the heel (plantar flexion), it can prevent them from transferring forward "along the circle". Hips can stall and will have an effect on Keys 2-4. Also helps sequencing with the arms and the pivot on the downswing, again Key #3.

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Helps with the turning rates on the downswing and into the followthrough. When the golfer lifts the heel (plantar flexion), it can prevent them from transferring forward "along the circle". Hips can stall and will have an effect on Keys 2-4. Also helps sequencing with the arms and the pivot on the downswing, again Key #3.

Thanks mvmac, so basically i'ts pretty important and you should do it =)

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Helps with the turning rates on the downswing and into the followthrough. When the golfer lifts the heel (plantar flexion), it can prevent them from transferring forward "along the circle". Hips can stall and will have an effect on Keys 2-4. Also helps sequencing with the arms and the pivot on the downswing, again Key #3.


Just to ask: "then what were they thinking when..."

I have read (and heard from a previous instructor a couple years ago) that we need to get the trailing foot up on the toes rapidly so that at the end of the swing the foot is straight up and down--seems kind of the opposite of this.  I think Leadbetter has taught this (don't know if he still does).

I'm now getting my lessons with evolvr, and undoing this part of my swing hasn't really come up as a priority piece (yet).  But I've wondered about it, since it seems the reverse of other teaching.

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Thanks mvmac, so basically i'ts pretty important and you should do it =)

It depends on the player and how the lifting of the heels effects the rest of the motion. There are some great players that have raised the heel before impact but their weight was well forward and their hips kept opening (pic below).

Just to ask: "then what were they thinking when..."

I have read (and heard from a previous instructor a couple years ago) that we need to get the trailing foot up on the toes rapidly so that at the end of the swing the foot is straight up and down--seems kind of the opposite of this.  I think Leadbetter has taught this (don't know if he still does).

I'm now getting my lessons with evolvr, and undoing this part of my swing hasn't really come up as a priority piece (yet).  But I've wondered about it, since it seems the reverse of other teaching.

I can't say honestly, I'm not that familiar with that part of Leadbetter's teaching.

I'll use Nick Price as an example. Even though the heel is slightly off the ground before impact, you can see how the foot still "banks", he isn't putting any wrinkles into the toes of his right shoe.

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It depends on the player and how the lifting of the heels effects the rest of the motion. There are some great players that have raised the heel before impact but their weight was well forward and their hips kept opening (pic below). I can't say honestly, I'm not that familiar with that part of Leadbetter's teaching.  I'll use Nick Price as an example. Even though the heel is slightly off the ground before impact, you can see how the foot still "banks", he isn't putting any wrinkles into the toes of his right shoe. [URL=http://thesandtrap.com/content/type/61/id/113791/] [/URL]

My rear foot at impact looks more like the pic on the right, and that's at impact not at the position he is in.

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So here is my right foot close at impact as you can see it's pretty far off the ground.

Just going off the pic I would say it's too much because of the space it creates between your thighs.

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Just going off the pic I would say it's too much because of the space it creates between your thighs.

Yea I have no doubt that I need to fix it, I just wasn't sure what issues it could cause.

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Yea I have no doubt that I need to fix it, I just wasn't sure what issues it could cause.

Short answer is that it makes it harder or more "complicated" to get the arms and clubhead to the ball because of what is happening to the pivot.

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