What do you feel in the transition and beginning of the downswing

[Slowcelica]

I am working on making my transition better and the beginning of the downswing and was wondering what do you do? Do you "motorcycle rev" with your right hand, do you bring your right elbow to your right hip, do you feel like you are trying to pin something between your left arm and upper chest(arm pit area)?

What do you guys do?

[Ernest Jones]

Fear. :-P Right now, and for over a year now, my transition feel is ripping my lead shoulder up and back as fast as I can while driving my hands out towards the ball. It's all geared towards a shallower, flatter swing as I tend to be steep at best and OTT at worst. Actually the hands out part is new, but I've been working on the shoulder piece forever.

[Abu3baid]

Fear. :-P Right now, and for over a year now, my transition feel is ripping my lead shoulder up and back as fast as I can while driving my hands out towards the ball. It's all geared towards a shallower, flatter swing as I tend to be steep at best and OTT at worst. Actually the hands out part is new, but I've been working on the shoulder piece forever.

If I had coffee in my mouth I would have spit it out.. Fear ... Classic

[vangator]

I had to grab a club to think what I do when starting my downswing. The butt of my club is dropping toward the ball. My right arm stays pretty close to my right side. My right hip is rotating toward the bal, the left hip away and backl. My main swing thought is to keep my head still and throw the club at the inside back of the ball. When I do that, I hit a nice little draw. Over swinging is usually death.

[iacas]

I am working on making my transition better and the beginning of the downswing and was wondering what do you do? Do you "motorcycle rev" with your right hand, do you bring your right elbow to your right hip, do you feel like you are trying to pin something between your left arm and upper chest(arm pit area)?

What do you guys do?

Could you be more specific? What part of the transition are you trying to make "better"? In what way?

Also, note that "feel ain't real" so be careful when people give answers.

[Slowcelica]

Could you be more specific? What part of the transition are you trying to make "better"? In what way? Also, note that "feel ain't real" so be careful when people give answers.

Sure, my priority piece right now is I guess you would say flattening the downswing, more specifically getting the club head inside the hands from the top of the backswing to shaft parallel to the ground on the downswing.

[iacas]

Sure, my priority piece right now is I guess you would say flattening the downswing, more specifically getting the club head inside the hands from the top of the backswing to shaft parallel to the ground on the downswing.

Okay. Unfortunately, and not to duck the question, but… this is one of those things that the feels can vary WILDLY from person to person. Some people feel the right wrist gives out and sags, others pull back with the right wrist. Others feel they turn their left forearm upward, others focus on the way the elbows work, or the shoulders, or the hands… It's a long list. My advice: make the move in a mirror (paying attention to not "cheating" it by flattening your shoulders) and see what it feels like to you.

[Slowcelica]

Okay. Unfortunately, and not to duck the question, but… this is one of those things that the feels can vary WILDLY from person to person. Some people feel the right wrist gives out and sags, others pull back with the right wrist. Others feel they turn their left forearm upward, others focus on the way the elbows work, or the shoulders, or the hands… It's a long list. My advice: make the move in a mirror (paying attention to not "cheating" it by flattening your shoulders) and see what it feels like to you.

Thanks, personally I'm feeling like I'm making somewhat of a loop at the top of the backswing. By flattening the shoulders you mean, not rotatating the wrists, but tilting the shoulders instead?

[iacas]

By flattening the shoulders you mean, not rotatating the wrists, but tilting the shoulders instead?

Yes, I mean flattening the shoulders. At the top of the backswing they're probably tilted 35° or so, so flattening them to 25° is bad.

[Slowcelica]

Yes, I mean flattening the shoulders. At the top of the backswing they're probably tilted 35° or so, so flattening them to 25° is bad.

Does your spine angle at setup kind of predefine at what angle your shoulders will be at the top of the backswing? Since your shoulders should be perpendicular to your spine, and should turn perpendicular to your spine?

[Slowcelica]

Here is a drill/feeling that is really helping me right now. Posting this maybe it will help someone else.

[rehmwa]

"What do you feel in the transition and beginning of the downswing"

Terror, inadequacy, nervousness, sometimes a little hunger, the stupid shirt tag that IZOD puts in the torso left side, more hunger