Religion vs. Atheism Thread

[Duff McGee]

I figured we should start a new thread since we are just barely scratching the surface because many are wary of going off topic. In this thread, we can post memes, cartoons, or anything else we think is relevant to the discussion.

[Duff McGee]

http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/newly-discovered-human-ancestor-likely-ritualistically-disposed-its-dead

[boogielicious]

Anything that crosses the line or any behavior that crosses the line will result in restriction from the thread.

[Ernest Jones]

I really hope everyone can remain civil in this thread. I may pop in once and a while and will more than likely be irreverent but never in a nasty, belittling way. People can kid around and even tease a bit but be wary of that line that @boogielicious has traced and remember that none of us really know shit-all about the mysteries of the universe and everything we think we know is mostly theoretical regardless of which side of the debate you fall on.

[14ledo81]

I really hope everyone can remain civil in this thread. I may pop in once and a while and will more than likely be irreverent but never in a nasty, belittling way. People can kid around and even tease a bit but be wary of that line that @boogielicious has traced and remember that none of us really know shit-all about the mysteries of the universe and everything we think we know is mostly theoretical regardless of which side of the debate you fall on.

This is key, and probably what bothers me the most about these types of threads.  Some people just can't seem to debate any other way though (not directing that at anyone).

[Duff McGee]

This is key, and probably what bothers me the most about these types of threads.  Some people just can't seem to debate any other way though (not directing that at anyone).

In all honesty I have not seen anyone even come close to being nasty. I am a member of about 3 religion debate groups and you wouldn't believe the stuff that is said. A lot of threats and laughter of a fiery hell future and other stuff.

[Elmer]

In all honesty I have not seen anyone even come close to being nasty.

I am a member of about 3 religion debate groups and you wouldn't believe the stuff that is said. A lot of threats and laughter of a fiery hell future and other stuff.

Challenge accepted!!!!

[Duff McGee]

Challenge accepted!!!!

I don't really mind the nasty but I think the admins do.

[Duff McGee]

Ok, here is a question to kick start the conversation. Theists: Why do you think your religion is the only valid religion? Unless you are a universalist, you basically have to believe that your religion is the right and only one.

[Lihu]

[Dave2512]

Ok, here is a question to kick start the conversation.

Theists:

Why do you think your religion is the only valid religion? Unless you are a universalist, you basically have to believe that your religion is the right and only one.

I know professional religious people, priests, that would disagree with this.

[saevel25]

I know professional religious people, priests, that would disagree with this.

Ditto.

[Duff McGee]

Ditto.

Ok.....what denomination are they? The only ones I've seen are very liberal Episcopal or very liberal Presbyterian pastors. Can we at least agree that the vast majority of religious people believe that their god is the one true god? And @Lihu again: how is atheism "blind faith?" You are an atheist too Lihu, unless you belief in every God ever spoken by man. Atheists just go one god further. So do you have blind faith that the Hindu gods aren't real? Or that there is an invisible unicorn in your living room?

[Lihu]

And Lihu, again: how is atheism "blind faith?" You are an atheist too Lihu, unless you belief in every God ever spoken by man. Atheists just go one god further.

So do you have blind faith that the Hindu gods aren't real? Or that there is an invisible unicorn in your living room?

[Duff McGee]

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Dude, Pinky Pie is an earth pony. Duh. Can't you get anything right Lihu. ;)

[Dave2512]

Ok.....what denomination are they? The only ones I've seen are very liberal Episcopal or very liberal Presbyterian pastors.

The people I know are Catholic, some I know very well. Like I party with them know them well.

[Lihu]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lihu

Dude, Pinky Pie is an earth pony. Duh. Can't you get anything right Lihu. ;)

[mdl]

Care to share a synopsis? I'm genuinely interested in the theological/philosophical answer of a person who doesn't believe old-school style that everyone who's not a Christian is going to hell but who still maintains a strong single faith. So, in other words, I don't know a ton about the other major monotheistic faiths, but there's tons of stuff in the bible and Christian theological tradition that maintains that at least among those who've heard the good word, those who aren't Christian are going to hell, and whatever god they worship is a false god. What's the opposing yet deeply Christian view?