Interesting Things to Note About the Republican Debate

[Pretzel]

Just three interesting tidbits about how the Republican debate is being hosted tonight, since it's at the Boulder campus of the University of Colorado, which I attend (in Colorado Springs this semester, Boulder next):

- Students are not allowed to attend the debate

Despite the fact that the debate is inconveniencing students in many ways, including displacing everyone with PAID parking passes, shutting down entire recreation areas, and heavily restricting any walking traffic on the nights near the debate (some students can't even get to the dining hall), the University only reserved 200 tickets for faculty and staff. As a result of faculty getting preference over students, there will not be any CU-Boulder students in attendance at the debate hosted at their university.

- Boulder is a surprising location

It is unusual that they chose Boulder as a location for the event because Boulder has a strong reputation as being one of the most, if not the very most, liberal cities in the entire state. It is not going to be a very receptive audience that attends the debate. It's so bad that many people are joking that they expect to see people in the audience potentially smoking marijuana or attempting to disrupt the proceedings in some way.

- Students are actually protesting the debate

Interestingly enough, students are actually currently protesting the debate on campus right now. They have a variety of reason, including the displacement of PAID parking passes, general disruption, opposing political viewpoints, and displeasure at the lack of tickets for students. The University Memorial Center, an area with food courts and the school bookstore, is currently crowded with various protesters, which is rather odd since the building serves no administrative purposes (though the administrative buildings are currently cordoned off). It will be interesting to see the protests ramp up as the debate gets closer and the security around the entire campus is tightened up. 

 

[rkim291968]

I say this is a conspiracy by CNBC  ...

[newtogolf]

The school is getting a ton of free publicity which I'm guessing is the reason why the school officials sold out the student body.  The students shouldn't be protesting the debate, they should be protesting the school admin who welcomed the debate on their campus.

Edited October 28, 2015 by newtogolf

[Pretzel]

The school is getting a ton of free publicity which I'm guessing is the reason why the school officials sold out the student body.  The students shouldn't be protesting the debate, they should be protesting the school admin who welcomed the debate on their campus.

The administration building is currently cordoned off and inaccessible, as noted in the third point. I would agree it is poorly directed though.

[CoachB25]

I will be interested in the questions and the climate of the debate.

[CoachB25]

Interesting each question asked is really an attack on the candidate.

Cruze just hammered the moderators for their questions and he was right.  He then gave the example of a question that was asked of the Democrats which was, "which one of you are more handsome."  He pointed out that not one moderator will vote Republican and so, they are attempting to get candidates to attack each other instead of asking substantive questions.  Cruze won't see another question. 

[CoachB25]

I apologize to Senator Cruz for the misspelling of his name.  I spelled his last name like my player with the same name.  I should know better. 

[Lefty-Golfer]

That debate was joke...but then CNBC is a joke so I guess that could be expected. Cruz actually was awesome, the moderators came off as D-bags. Just another day in the life of the news media.

[newtogolf]

The modern day media aspires to be TMZ, the facts or candidates positions don't matter, it's all about the mud slinging, editorializing and gossip.

I typically watch CNBC for their financial coverage but prefer Bloomberg, the talking head CNBC moderators demonstrated they know as much about conducting a debate as they do about stocks and the financial markets, nothing.

The administration building is currently cordoned off and inaccessible, as noted in the third point. I would agree it is poorly directed though.

The school was well represented by the candidates so while you were all inconvenienced, the overall reputation of the school got a nice boost. 

Someone on your school board fought hard to get the debates held on your campus, if the student body is united, they should find out who was responsible and force them to explain.  I'm sure the candidates didn't care where the debate was held, so any anger towards them was misplaced.   

[saevel25]

Some lies told by the republican candidates. 

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/oct/28/fact-checking-republican-cnbc-debate/

Sander's is going to raise our taxes to 90%, False. It has been proven false for a while now. Both Cristie and Trump jump on this statement. 

Carson's claim he has no ties to Mannatech a nutrition supplement company that had to settle a $7 million dollar law suite for deceptive marketing, false. Carson got paid to deliver speeches for the company and appeared in promotional videos. 

Trump denies calling Marco Rubio Mark Zuckerberg's personal senator. If you ever went to Trump's website it had the statement up saying "Mark Zuckerberg's personal senator, Marco Rubio, has a bill to triple H-1B's. Shockingly the moderator apologized, when he was right in the first place.


 

[nevets88]

Sounds familiar? Like no golf shots until 10 minutes into the broadcast? It was CBS running things, not CNBC!  

 

[rkim291968]

They should report fact check results on TV screen while the debate is going on.   I think that can force the candidates from lying, or making things up.   

I didn't think CNBC was any worse than CNN or Fox.   They are all treating these debates as a reality show for rating grab.   

 

[Gator Hazard]

Didn't watch the debates (no cable) but will probably check it out online somewhere.  I did see some of the highlights and in general Trump continued to look like his clown self.  Cruz, meh, he got his shot in on the media which was good and justified. Bush looked like a desperate loser and also looked like he was uncomfortable attacking Rubio the way he did, it was apparent that his campaign managers put him up to it and Rubio sniffed it out as well and whacked him.  Christie was typical Christie, a loud windbag also jumping on the bandwagon against the media to try and garner some noise/applause.  

Rather unimpressive on both sides, the moderators and the candidates, the candidates all are not entirely to blame though given the questions it appears they were interested in asking.  It is so funny because the media really doesn't need help usually in making candidates look bad, most of them are pretty good at doing it themselves.

[rehmwa]

Didn't watch the debates (no cable) but will probably check it out online somewhere.

If anyone finds it on the web soon (the whole thing, not just clips) - please post it here.  Now I want to see it.

[rkim291968]

I watched some of it.   Rubio may have done well but I am turned off by his answers.   It was like watching a robot.  Jeb ... just don't have the TV presence.   Trump, Carson were not very present.  Liked Kaisich (sp?). Never liked Christie & Carly and hate them even more after the debate.   Huckabee, Randy should drop out soon.

Didn't watch the kiddie table debate but I've heard Graham was entertaining.

The reps attack on CNBC was pretty thorough.  

In closing remark, Trump took credit for reducing the debate time to 2 hours.   CNBC "for the record" retorted back saying that it was always a two hour program.   I thought it was the highlight of Trump's debate.   He really didn't have much substantive stuff to say other than that. 

[dkolo]

What bothered me the most about the debate, in retrospect, was Gov. Christie's grandstanding last night: he dismissed the daily fantasy sports question as nonsense about fantasy football. Meanwhile, his state of New Jersey is currently tied up in federal court because it's passed legislation that would legalize sports gambling in the state. This after New Jersey got into the state-sponsored online poker business. In light of this, the fact that the attorney general of the state across the river has launched a fraud investigation into the DFS sites, and the fact that it's obviously a national issue, why was it an unreasonable question?

Also, the "we have an X trillion dollar debt and we're worrying about ___" response is just awful. Yeah, the debt is bad. Also, the government can address more than one issue at a time. Can you imagine: "How can we be talking about the Japanese bombing Pearl Harbor when our national debt is the highest it's ever been?!"

[rkim291968]

What bothered me the most about the debate, in retrospect, was Gov. Christie's grandstanding last night: he dismissed the daily fantasy sports question as nonsense about fantasy football. Meanwhile, his state of New Jersey is currently tied up in federal court because it's passed legislation that would legalize sports gambling in the state. This after New Jersey got into the state-sponsored online poker business. In light of this, the fact that the attorney general of the state across the river has launched a fraud investigation into the DFS sites, and the fact that it's obviously a national issue, why was it an unreasonable question?

Also, the "we have an X trillion dollar debt and we're worrying about ___" response is just awful. Yeah, the debt is bad. Also, the government can address more than one issue at a time. Can you imagine: "How can we be talking about the Japanese bombing Pearl Harbor when our national debt is the highest it's ever been?!"

100% in agreement.   I thought the question was legit.  The moderator's point was that it is close to gambling - a moral issue that should be dear to conservatives.   Christie bullied it to the next question.   And Jeb's response to Christie's outburst?  MIA.    CNBC's response - ok, on to the next question.    

CNBC should impose a penalty of people jumping in to hijack an answer.  My suggestion?   Skip a next question to the candidate who violates the rule.  

 

My favorite of the debate was Kaisich.   He may have hurt his chances for the nomination even more by trying to put some sense into everyone's head about reality vs fantasy.   But honesty is not a virtue when it comes to politics.  

Edited October 29, 2015 by rkim291968

[saevel25]

Yy favorite of the debate was Kaisich.   He may have hurt his chances for the nomination even more by trying to put some sense into everyone's head about reality vs fantasy.   But honesty is not a virtue when it comes to politics.  

I don't know. I think that might just keep him chugging along during this whole thing. He might never serge, but he might just constantly gain support at a slow steady rate. If it becomes Kasich versus someone who's flip flopping all over the place or becoming too radical he might appeal enough to common sense republicans to pull out the victory. I think he's playing the only card he has, be the voice of reason and the mature one. 

100% in agreement.   I thought the question was legit.  The moderator's point was that it is close to gambling - a moral issue that should be dear to conservatives.   Christie bullied it to the next question.   And Jeb's response to Christie's outburst?  MIA.    CNBC's response - ok, on to the next question.    

Gambling is a non-issue. It's just like liberals to try to make something more when it's not. Honestly, just allow gambling. If they want their cut then tax draft kings heavily to cover it.