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On 9/7/2019 at 2:33 PM, Vinsk said:

We’re not discussing lag. We’re all aware of lag. You’re phrase is ‘lag pressure’ which as you’ve defined doesn’t correlate with physics. And don’t be silly, nobody here is saying good ball strikers flip the club. We’re simply saying you have made statements that don’t correlate with the physics of what’s actually happening. 

89442551-3EE4-460C-982C-3753A2E00719.thumb.png.30f0d85afbe0967a1cee3a44c5bc5388.pngLet me guess...bad angle? Not even close to being in line huh?

Your perception is your reality I suppose.  Unfortunately, it doesn’t mean it’s true.  

Nonetheless, we have a fine product that is being used by Tour pros willingly because it helps with impact feels.  Feel isn’t always real, but under the gun, feel is all you have.  

 

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57 minutes ago, Divot Tool said:

Your perception is your reality I suppose.  Unfortunately, it doesn’t mean it’s true.

The physics explains why everything I’ve said here about it is true.

And the last time I saw a Tour player using it was about four or five years ago. But whatever. Kind of a non/point by either side.

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1 hour ago, Divot Tool said:

Your perception is your reality I suppose.  Unfortunately, it doesn’t mean it’s true.  

Now that’s the pot calling the kettle black. Your definition of what you think lag pressure is and how it’s created was clearly debunked by @iacas response. 
 

It’s not my perception that your lag pressure hypothesis is wrong. It doesn’t correlate with physics. Period. You’re wrong. 

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11 minutes ago, Vinsk said:

Now that’s the pot calling the kettle black. Your definition of what you think lag pressure is and how it’s created was clearly debunked by @iacas response.

It’s not my perception that your lag pressure hypothesis is wrong. It doesn’t correlate with physics. Period. You’re wrong. 

I forgot we had that diversion in this topic. I thought it was still about the title.

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Fwiw, before deciding whether or not to buy it, I used the DST Compressor 8-iron at a golf store indoor hitting net to see if it does what it advertises.  I hit several shanks initially but quickly figured out why: I often stall out at impact and don't continue to turn my hips, and for me the club tends to get out away from my body and moves toward the ball, thus hitting the ball toward the heal (note: I never shank a ball when I play or practice).  After a few swings with the Compressor I realized I have to keep turning the hips in order to keep the handle and club close to my body, something I'm well aware of but have a bad habit of getting "ball bound" at impact. 

For this insight alone it was worth trying it out, yet I came to the conclusion that the "lag stick" training aid - much cheaper (or just putting an alignment rod in or along your club shaft) accomplishes the same thing.  If your hip turn stalls out at impact on a full swing, or you flip your wrists on a chip shot, the lag stick or alignment rod will hit you in your side (left side for righties).  If you keep your lead wrist flat at impact it forces you to continue to turn, especially useful when chipping.  I don't care about lag per se but I do want to have my hands leading the club head coming into at impact in order to compress the ball (while avoiding "hitting down" on the ball) and the best way for me to get that is having a flat left wrist along with continuing an aggressive hip turn (opening the hips) to the finish, not with holding off or attempting to retain lag, that takes incredible timing.  Also, for your irons and woods get shafts with the proper stiffness or flex :)

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25 minutes ago, DesertDude said:

(note: I never shank a ball when I play or practice). 

Well…that’ll do it. God speed my friend.

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