Flatten out club swing plane

[PabloMoorzio]

Hiya all

So treated myself to a Zepp swing analyzer over xmas and this tell me areas I need to look at(all basically but...) my first priorities are tempo and club swing plane, I'm OK with how to work on tempo as that is something I can suss with a range/club and a metronome but my swing plane is showing consistently between +30 & +50. I can get this into acceptable parameters when not trying to hit ball by dramatically pulling club under on back swing on downswing but this feels like it will make hitting ball square a non starter. Basically fells like I am shifting entire body to unnatural position just to get a swing plane to fall into "acceptable" levels?

Are there any easy methods for folk with + swing plane to reduce without it feeling so abnormal?

Cheers for any pointers ladies and gents.

[carpediem4300]

depends why you feel the need to flatten it? is your current plane causing you issues?

 

[PabloMoorzio]

Cheers for reply, I'd say I'm searching for resolutions to my main bug bear at moment, I am topping the ball a hell of a lot. As I say, I've gone and got a swing analyzer and looking at the figures and illustrations it shows me, I figured the fact that my downswing appears to be coming in from above of backswing, considerably most of time, perhaps this is contributing to it. Does this sound feasible, it is a straw I'm grasping :D

[RandallT]

Lots of folks giving similar advice over on this thread:

(if I understand the question correctly)

[carpediem4300]

9 minutes ago, PabloMoorzio said:

Cheers for reply, I'd say I'm searching for resolutions to my main bug bear at moment, I am topping the ball a hell of a lot. As I say, I've gone and got a swing analyzer and looking at the figures and illustrations it shows me, I figured the fact that my downswing appears to be coming in from above of backswing, considerably most of time, perhaps this is contributing to it. Does this sound feasible, it is a straw I'm grasping :D

well its feasible i guess, when you do make good contact what type of flight do you get?

[PabloMoorzio]

Low mostly..... Am really struggling to get flight on ball, especially off grass surface, a lot better results from range mats which is offering a false sense of security.

[carpediem4300]

Hmmm sounds more like a struggle to hit down on the ball rather than your swing plane,....you can swing vertical or horizontal and still hit down on the ball to some extent, Ive tried to find a thread to link to you that details this

 

do you have a swing video you could post in the relevant forum section for people to look at?

Also @iacas is awesome at linking threads, maybe he can find the hitting down one for you 

[nevets88]

49 minutes ago, RandallT said:

Lots of folks giving similar advice over on this thread:

(if I understand the question correctly)

The above thread has lots of tips on flattening the shaft on the downswing. I'd also highly recommend you post video of your swing in the forum linked below, it's really hard to diagnose a swing without looking at it. There are some very knowledgeable folks here who can point you in the right direction. Flattening the shaft on the downswing is just one aspect, from my own experience, I can do a decent job of this, but there is still a lot of stuff I have to work on that happens after the downswing.

Member Swings Forum

 

[Blackjack Don]

I've got a Zepp device and I've given up on the swing plane part. I can't get under 20% very often. I'm not even sure why I'm using it anymore. Just for something to look at, I guess.

[PabloMoorzio]

23 minutes ago, Blackjack Don said:

I've got a Zepp device and I've given up on the swing plane part. I can't get under 20% very often. I'm not even sure why I'm using it anymore. Just for something to look at, I guess.

I think it is definitely a clever bit of kit and seems to be accurate from the view point of swing-speed/plane/hand plane etc.. I think my issue is not understanding what each aspect relates to in the overall action of club moving back and around a point then back to meet a ball and send it on its way if you get my drift?

I think if I was a golf instructor and understood the whys and wherefores of a successful/unsuccessful swing/hit it would assist me a great deal. I quite like the idea of it though as a "coach" if you will, if 3:1 is the accepted "ideal"'ish tempo then Zepp is a great tool for refining. I think the fact it is giving me 6 or more pieces of data and they ALL require work I am being overfaced and confused with what order to attack these "faults". Is there an accepted order of priority for:

Swing Tempo

Swing plane

Swing club speed

Hand plane

Backswing degrees

So much to fix so little time.............................

[Rainmaker]

This is a great drill that I did for a long time..and still do sometimes . .kind of a generic drill for "swing plane"...

Address the ball as normal.  Take the club back as normal but stop at the top.  Drop the clubhead to the ground...now pick it up and swing.