Hank Haney questions Bernhard Langer's Putting

[Vinsk]

1 hour ago, iacas said:

It was by some. She seems to have a small history of doing that mis-marking/mis-replacing thing.

That's interesting...I wasn't aware of that. I assumed she'd say no because when she was first told she was being given a penalty she said, "what, are you kidding me?" That didn't sound like an admission to what she'd done. I also wasn't aware that video was reviewed clearly showing no anchoring took place. I only read that the USGA 'spoke to BL about it." In light of that, I am wrong.

[Lastpick]

I watched some of the Champions Tour final on 8/27 and I think most of the people using a long putter are anchoring.  Can't believe that it goes unquestioned by the PGA with some of the after the fact rulings they have made on other tours.

[Vinsk]

I can’t imagine a much better look short of literally walking up to him and passing an index card between his hand to see if it’s touching. Just appears that this is one rule that is 100% held on player’s word alone. Sure looks like anchoring to me.

[Mr. Desmond]

This is an ugly issue in golf... I think the powers that be wants these guys to retire so the long putter disappears.

Edited November 2, 2017 by Mr. Desmond

[iacas]

1 hour ago, Vinsk said:

I can’t imagine a much better look short of literally walking up to him and passing an index card between his hand to see if it’s touching. Just appears that this is one rule that is 100% held on player’s word alone. Sure looks like anchoring to me.

Having seen Dave Koster (who has smaller man boobs than Scott above) in person, it does not look like anchoring to me.

And, it's two guys on the Champions Tour.

I'm not getting overly invested in this. I'm done. It's a non-issue to me.

[Vinsk]

26 minutes ago, iacas said:

Having seen Dave Koster (who has smaller man boobs than Scott above) in person, it does not look like anchoring to me.

And, it's two guys on the Champions Tour.

I'm not getting overly invested in this. I'm done. It's a non-issue to me.

Yeah I know. But it’s two guys who happen to be leading the Champions Tour. Still a lot of money and the powers that be bothered to make the rule. Which I just don’t feel is enforceable really. That’s all. No amount of video can possibly prove anchoring. What I disagree with others is I don’t believe McCarron or Lhanger would accept a penalty if they were called out on it because I don’t think even they are aware if they do it. Either way, it’s a rule purely based on hoping players just don’t do it.

[Hacker James]

IDK and IDC. As far as being anchored or not, to me it does NOT look like it noting the shadow behind the rear palm.  Stupid rule anyway.

[iacas]

36 minutes ago, Vinsk said:

Yeah I know. But it’s two guys who happen to be leading the Champions Tour.

Which isn't really or mostly because of their putting. Bernhard, for example, is #1 in GIR.

36 minutes ago, Vinsk said:

Still a lot of money and the powers that be bothered to make the rule.

Which they, to me, appear to be following. The USGA says they're following it. They say they're following it. The PGA Tour Champions says they're following it.

36 minutes ago, Vinsk said:

Either way, it’s a rule purely based on hoping players just don’t do it.

Repeating that as you have done over and over again doesn't make it any more correct.

[Vinsk]

13 minutes ago, iacas said:

Which isn't really or mostly because of their putting. Bernhard, for example, is #1 in GIR.

Which they, to me, appear to be following. The USGA says they're following it. They say they're following it. The PGA Tour Champions says they're following it.

Repeating that as you have done over and over again doesn't make it any more correct.

Well you’ve already stated your opinion and that you’re not going to invest in it so maybe some others can suggest how this rule could be enforced. 

Unless you’re standing on top of the guy or he’s shirtless it’s impossible to definitively tell with the naked eye if anchoring is taking place. You have yet to prove otherwise so I am correct in saying it’s a murky rule at best because it cannot be enforced but only written.

[iacas]

3 minutes ago, Vinsk said:

Well you’ve already stated your opinion and that you’re not going to invest in it so maybe some others can suggest how this rule could be enforced.

Dude, c'mon. Get over it. I'm not investing more in this by repeating the things I've already said several times, including the many ways that someone could actually be penalized for breaching this rule, despite your claims that it's "purely" based on hope.

3 minutes ago, Vinsk said:

Unless you’re standing on top of the guy or he’s shirtless it’s impossible to definitively tell with the naked eye if anchoring is taking place.

Not true.

3 minutes ago, Vinsk said:

You have yet to prove otherwise so I am correct in saying it’s a murky rule at best because it cannot be enforced but only written.

Also not true.

As there's nothing new here, nor has there been, I'm locking the topic.

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/why-is-bernhard-langer-guilty-until-proven-innocent-jaime-diaz-anchoring