Behind a Foursome of Slow-Playing Kids

[iacas]

Just admit you were wrong, dude. You're an unreliable narrator on this topic.

I've already pointed out that every boy in the field would have beat you even if you played to your handicap all three rounds, and all but one girl (and I know Jayne) would have beaten you too (allowing for them playing their tees).

According to my friend with the AJGA, the tournament rounds were all on the South course. So who left the trash lying about…?

18 minutes ago, Buckeyebowman said:

Nothing any better than I can shoot,

False.

[David in FL]

I'm struggling to understand.  Does the fact that they're decent players exclude them from pace of play considerations and etiquette towards other golfers simultaneously playing the same course?

I would hope that a primary goal of junior golf would be to foster the behavior that we expect of responsible adults in the game.  No?

[iacas]

8 minutes ago, David in FL said:

I'm struggling to understand.  Does the fact that they're decent players exclude them from pace of play considerations and etiquette towards other golfers simultaneously playing the same course?

I would hope that a primary goal of junior golf would be to foster the behavior that we expect of responsible adults in the game.  No?

He wasn't behind AJGA players.

[Vinsk]

4 minutes ago, iacas said:

I would hope that a primary goal of junior golf would be to foster the behavior that we expect of responsible adults in the game.

Like not playing as a 5 some when they're not allowed?

[David in FL]

7 minutes ago, iacas said:

He wasn't behind AJGA players.

I know.  I just meant junior golf in general.  

4 minutes ago, Vinsk said:

Like not playing as a 5 some when they're not allowed?

Not sure I understand.

Interestingly, I played in a 5-some today.  We offered to let a 3-ball in 3 carts play through on 6.  They declined.  We easily stayed ahead of them and finished in a very comfortable 3:40.  Thank God, cuz boys, it was freaking HOT out there this afternoon!

[iacas]

7 minutes ago, David in FL said:

I know.  I just meant junior golf in general.

I don't think he was commenting on junior golfers in general.

[Vinsk]

I may have read it wrong but I thought the OP, after complaining about rules/etiquette of the young group ahead, stated he was playing in a fivesome which isn't allowed at this course. 

[Pretzel]

On 6/22/2017 at 7:51 PM, David in FL said:

Huh.  Why not?  Are they not expected to respect normally accepted courtesy?  Are they taught that when playing an event that they own the course?  I'm genuinely interested, as I don't know...

Because I can guarantee they were right behind the group in front of them while playing in that tournament. Having played in that type of atmosphere, you're almost always waiting on the group ahead of you, meaning playing through wouldn't have done much good.

 

But yeah, if you said they shot terrible it definitely wasn't AJGA. You have to qualify to play in AJGA tournaments, meaning an 80 is considered bad with an 85 being awful.

[upndown21]

I used to live in the area where AJGA is headquartered and I would volunteer at their tournaments. They have timers every 3 holes and giving them red or green cards for pace of play. I believe two red and they start getting penalty strokes. These were their top events with kids from all around the world. Great organization.

[Buckeyebowman]

On 6/23/2017 at 10:16 PM, David in FL said:

I'm struggling to understand.  Does the fact that they're decent players exclude them from pace of play considerations and etiquette towards other golfers simultaneously playing the same course?

I would hope that a primary goal of junior golf would be to foster the behavior that we expect of responsible adults in the game.  No?

I would hope that would be the case. Since I saw them socializing with AJGA staffers on the clubhouse veranda, I made an assumption which was probably wrong. Maybe they were checking out possibilities of playing in future events. I'm sure reality would take hold then! My slow play complaint remains valid.

On 6/23/2017 at 10:24 PM, iacas said:

He wasn't behind AJGA players.

I suspect that's the case, although it's not often that I encounter foursomes of high school aged kids all walking and carrying. Not these days! Especially not in unsanctioned play.

As far as admitting I was wrong, I thought I did that in my last post. Won't happen again. My slow play complaint remains valid.

On 6/23/2017 at 10:28 PM, Vinsk said:

Like not playing as a 5 some when they're not allowed?

That's right! We played as a 2 some and a 3 some. We would circle back to them and check in, and do some good natured razzing. Believe me, we had the time!

My slow play complaint remains valid.

[iacas]

4 minutes ago, Buckeyebowman said:

My slow play complaint remains valid.

Okay.

But at this point, the thread is basically "Hey, today I played behind a slow foursome of kids."

Guess what? The other day, in a twosome, I was behind a slow foursome. We waited on them from the 8th hole to the 16th hole when they finally let us play through. The sad thing is they probably thought to themselves "hey, look at us being good guys, letting these guys play through" when they could have done so eight holes earlier… or seven. Or six. Or five…