Tossing around ideas for a different 2018 set-up.

[WUTiger]

I would go with the 4W. With a single FW, it gives you more flexibility. Plus, I think you trust it from multiple seasons.

And, if you have to use FW out of light rough, the 4Whas 3W beat up, down and sideways.

Just my thoughts.

[WUTiger]

6 hours ago, onthehunt526 said:

... I probably could go with a 3-wood at 42.5" correct? I'm not opposed to the 4W/19° H set-up though. The only thing what fairway I play effects, is whether I have a 245 carry club off the turf or not. ...

After sending my prior post, I can see where a 245-yd. carry w/ 3W could be nice to have off the fairway.

So: 3W = greater distance / 4W = somewhat greater reliability, better from rough....

I think it's probably a tie... go with what makes you feel better (...peace of mind over the ball...)

Edited February 7, 2018 by WUTiger

[onthehunt526]

On 2/6/2018 at 7:10 PM, WUTiger said:

After sending my prior post, I can see where a 245-yd. carry w/ 3W could be nice to have off the fairway.

So: 3W = greater distance / 4W = somewhat greater reliability, better from rough....

I think it's probably a tie... go with what makes you feel better (...peace of mind over the ball...)

@WUTiger,

If you averaged 260-270 yards carry with your driver, what direction would you go? I really like the CBX 3-wood (I hit my 4-wood for comparison). I was averaging 245 carry with the 3-wood. The 3-wood fits the gap between Driver and hybrid a little better. But if I went with 4 wood, I could always play a 20° hybrid instead of an 18 or 19° hybrid. 

What I like about the CBX hybrid, I can do whatever I want with it. Draw, Fade, High, Low, Rounded Hook, Big old slice, shorter, longer, chip with it. 

If I need 220 out of medium rough, that's the Hybrid, if I need 195 out of a fairway bunker, hybrid, I'm on the top of long grass near the green hybrid. 175 middle of the fairway into the wind, hybrid. 

The reason I was tossing around the driving iron was because on days I struggled with the driver last year, I'd nearly always reach for a long iron or 3-hybrid to get me around. The problem with the 3h last year was, I'd either come over the top and yank it left, or I'd catch it and I'd hit a low hook. I had to remember to open the face slightly to hit it straight. With the CBX I don't have to do that.

[WUTiger]

On 2/5/2018 at 10:50 AM, WUTiger said:

The women pros really get a lot out of their hybrids. I saw this as a caddie at a Symetra Tour event last summer (LPGA developmental). My golfer used the 3H and 4H a lot, in different situations. When I asked her how far she actually hit her 4H, she replied, "As far as I need to." The 4H was her magic club.

Sounds like the CBX 3H might do the same for you. ... .

Sounds like the CBX is pushing ahead in your mind... see below... 

17 hours ago, onthehunt526 said:

What I like about the CBX hybrid, I can do whatever I want with it. Draw, Fade, High, ... 

If I need 220 out of medium rough, that's the Hybrid, ...

The problem with the 3h last year was, I'd either come over the top and yank it left, or I'd catch it and I'd hit a low hook. I had to remember to open the face slightly to hit it straight. With the CBX I don't have to do that.

Maybe the CBX h is your magic club... You have confidence in it, and you have found a hybrid that works for you - this is a persistent problem for stronger golfers.

** For other matters:

Driver carry = 270 or so, runout maybe 15... 285 total on decent shot... // 3W = 245

So... 285 + 245 = 530 in two, enough to reach some mid-level par 5s... If you use distance accelerators, you might squeeze out a bit more.

Whatever.... now how many strokes a month would you save by having a 3W instead of a 4W? It's down to a little more distance versus a little more reliability.

4W + 20*H // or // 3W + 19*H... This comes down to feel... which pairing would make you feel more confident when you walk up to the first tee?
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FYI: I'm going to be in Chicago later this month, so I called to Tour Edge in Batavia (west edge) to ask about a plant tour. The phone rep said TE doesn't give tours or have a test range. The site just has admin offices and a warehouse. Oh, well...

Edited February 8, 2018 by WUTiger
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[onthehunt526]

31 minutes ago, WUTiger said:

Sounds like the CBX is pushing ahead in your mind... see below... 

Maybe the CBX h is your magic club... You have confidence in it, and you have found a hybrid that works for you - this is a persistent problem for stronger golfers.

** For other matters:

Driver carry = 270 or so, runout maybe 15... 285 total on decent shot... // 3W = 245

So... 285 + 245 = 530 in two, enough to reach some mid-level par 5s... If you use distance accelerators, you might squeeze out a bit more.

Whatever.... now how many strokes a month would you save by having a 3W instead of a 4W? It's down to a little more distance versus a little more reliability.

4W + 20*H // or // 3W + 19*H... This comes down to feel... which pairing would make you feel more confident when you walk up to the first tee?
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FYI: I'm going to be in Chicago later this month, so I called to Tour Edge in Batavia (west edge) to ask about a plant tour. The phone rep said TE doesn't give tours or have a test range. The site just has admin offices and a warehouse. Oh, well...

 

Home course, The longest par-5 would be D, 4W to reach in two. The 3w would good off of the tee for the shorter par-4s. Though I could probably shoot 77 or 78 with a 4-iron off every tee.

[onthehunt526]

Actually, @WUTiger if I went with either FW on my home course with a 18° hybrid, I don't think it matters what fairway wood I play. The 9th at Newman is 530 yards on the card. But straight line distance It's only 505 (10 plays longer at 515), I think I've got it now.

[onthehunt526]

On 2/6/2018 at 12:55 PM, onthehunt526 said:

Since I've finally found my 4W/4I bridge. I don't necessarily need the 3I (I'm still going to buy it, and use it for practice and windy days). The only issue I might have now, that isn't a "huge" concern, is 3-wood or 4-wood. I think the 4-wood might be the way to go, but a 3-wood at standard 4-wood length could accomplish the same thing. @WUTiger, Since I've found a club, I can do whatever I want with, a.k.a. we don't really need a fairway wood, I can shave 25 yards off of. (If you want to see me do that, watch me with a 5-wood). I probably could go with a 3-wood at 42.5" correct? I'm not opposed to the 4W/19° H set-up though. The only thing what fairway I play effects, is whether I have a 245 carry club off the turf or not.

@WUTiger,

I finally got it figured out.

Driver, 4W, 19° Hybrid, 4-PW, 52°, 56°, Putter, then either 3-iron or 60° wedge depending on course conditions and depth of bunkers, stimp of greens, thickness of rough, etc.

 

[WUTiger]

@onthehunt526,

Sounds good to me. Looks like you simplified it down to Sweet 15!

Went to St. Louis Golf Expo today and talked to Dave Jacobs, one of Tour Edge's best reps.

He said the CBX hybrid you like was designed with help from the Champion's Tour, and one of the design goals was to get rid of left misses.

And, he reminded me that CBX fairways are edging others in the distance contests.

I feel conflicted. Dave so wants me to switch over to an all TE bag. Both Dave and the Callaway rep really know their stuff.

[onthehunt526]

8 minutes ago, WUTiger said:

@onthehunt526,

Sounds good to me. Looks like you simplified it down to Sweet 15!

Went to St. Louis Golf Expo today and talked to Dave Jacobs, one of Tour Edge's best reps.

He said the CBX hybrid you like was designed with help from the Champion's Tour, and one of the design goals was to get rid of left misses.

And, he reminded me that CBX fairways are edging others in the distance contests.

I feel conflicted. Dave so wants me to switch over to an all TE bag. Both Dave and the Callaway rep really know their stuff.

@WUTiger, send Dave Jacobs my way. Tell him you know a guy in Upstate New York, who worships Exotics. If they could make a CBX Driver as good as the fairways they would make a killing. 

Edited February 10, 2018 by onthehunt526

[WUTiger]

12 hours ago, onthehunt526 said:

@WUTiger, send Dave Jacobs my way. ... Tell him you know a guy in Upstate New York, who worships Exotics. If they could make a CBX Driver as good as the fairways they would make a killing. 

Shane,

Here is contact info on Dave Jacobs from a couple of years ago. See if it still works.

Email: djacobs010@gmail.com

Cell: 217-899-1651

Tell him I'm John, the guy from St. Louis area demo days who (still) plays XRail 4W and 7W. "Jake" and I talked about your adoption of the CBX 3W and hybrid this past weekend.

[onthehunt526]

@WUTiger,

I ordered my CBX Blades (3-iron through Pitching Wedge) and my CBX 4-wood yesterday.

I went with Dynamic Gold AMT in my irons after hitting both the CBX Blade 7-iron and the Callaway Rogue Pro 7-iron with the same shaft. They were both in the trajectory window I was hoping for. (I will always hit a very high ball no matter what shaft I play), but it was still a lower peak height than my EXi while keeping the descent angle above 45°. So it that shaft won out.

My instructor plays Project X HZDRUS Black in his fairway wood and he like you recommended the Project X HZDRUS Yellow. He happened to have a 3-wood demo with this exact shaft in it... Well I was sold. I did go with the 65 instead of the 75 due to the way fact the 75 for some reason feels heavier than my X-flex Black Tie. Which is not what I was going for. It's about a 13 gram difference, but the 6.0 plays a little stiffer anyway. 

I'm actually trying to figure out if I can get this shaft for the EX10 driver I'm going to order soon. (I wish Tour Edge would make a CBX Driver even if it was bonded, I wouldn't care)

[onthehunt526]

@WUTiger,

I was able to get the HZDRUS Yellow for the driver.

I'll do more detailed pics soon but this is what we have for now.

 

The stock photo of the CBX Blades does not do them justice. Absolutely gorgeous. Look as good as any Mizuno or Titleist blade. They actually remind me a little of the old Titleist Tour Models a bit... Hell I should find a couple persimmons and play some holes.

[allenc]

On 2/27/2018 at 10:18 PM, onthehunt526 said:

@WUTiger,

I was able to get the HZDRUS Yellow for the driver.

I'll do more detailed pics soon but this is what we have for now.

 

The stock photo of the CBX Blades does not do them justice. Absolutely gorgeous. Look as good as any Mizuno or Titleist blade. They actually remind me a little of the old Titleist Tour Models a bit... Hell I should find a couple persimmons and play some holes.

According to Lowest Score Wins putting is overrated, but it’s not that overrated.  Nice irons though.

[onthehunt526]

What do you guys think? Early season, drop the 3-iron for now?

[ncates00]

23 minutes ago, onthehunt526 said:

What do you guys think? Early season, drop the 3-iron for now?

Yeah with these wintery/early spring conditions, go for a hybrid or wood for more height and carry (and better ball speed too). Or another wedge even. 

Edited April 7, 2018 by ncates00

[onthehunt526]

5 minutes ago, ncates00 said:

Yeah with these wintery/early spring conditions, go for a hybrid or wood for more height and carry (and better ball speed too). Or another wedge even. 

I have 4 wedges already... I honestly almost went with only three... but 4 gives me some options... @WUTiger the typical ground conditions of Upstate New York... In April soft, spongy have to use the bounce on the irons to hit solid shots... My 3-iron isn't really good for soft conditions, hybrid for now.

[ncates00]

10 hours ago, onthehunt526 said:

I have 4 wedges already... I honestly almost went with only three... but 4 gives me some options... @WUTiger the typical ground conditions of Upstate New York... In April soft, spongy have to use the bounce on the irons to hit solid shots... My 3-iron isn't really good for soft conditions, hybrid for now.

Good deal man. Makes sense. I actually have 47, 51, 56, 60, and 64 degree wedges. I love having a ton of wedges. I hit full shots and partial shots and enjoy that end of the bag being dialed in pretty well. I dropped my 4h for the 64. I go from 5h (carry of 188) to 5w (carry of 203). It made sense to me to not carry the 4h and opt for another option for a shorter full shot and around the green. 

[WUTiger]

A chokedown 3H would be less like to chunk in damp turf than a 3i. Sounds good to me.