Need Advice On Clubs

[kylerdunn1]

I have the old king cobra oversized irons. Im just wondering if reshafting would be better than getting new clubs. I would like to stick with steel shafts. does anyone know what shafts would be good for me? Im new to golf 2 years in. And i need -.25 shafts. so do i order them like that or have someone around me do it?

[boogielicious]

6 hours ago, kylerdunn1 said:

I have the old king cobra oversized irons. Im just wondering if reshafting would be better than getting new clubs. I would like to stick with steel shafts. does anyone know what shafts would be good for me? Im new to golf 2 years in. And i need -.25 shafts. so do i order them like that or have someone around me do it?

I would recommend getting fitted by a competent fitter. We cannot guess without seeing your swing.  Re-shafting old irons may not be worth it because irons are better now and have a lot of options depending on your skill level. You can also purchase newer used irons for less that re-shafting would cost.

[MarvChamp]

1 hour ago, boogielicious said:

Re-shafting old irons may not be worth it because irons are better now and have a lot of options depending on your skill level. You can also purchase newer used irons for less that re-shafting would cost.

@kylerdunn1 , this is good advice. I know because I re-shafted and regripped a great MX-200 set using Nippon shafts. I could have been fitted for new Mizunos. -Marv

[kylerdunn1]

The only way i can see buying different irons is buying used irons. The only problem is im not sure what size shafts that are on on the irons i need to be looking for. i found a chart online and it said i need -.25 length. but idk if theres more to it than measurement. really would like a set of used taylormade irons or cobras

[Shindig]

1 hour ago, kylerdunn1 said:

The only way i can see buying different irons is buying used irons. The only problem is im not sure what size shafts that are on on the irons i need to be looking for. i found a chart online and it said i need -.25 length. but idk if theres more to it than measurement. really would like a set of used taylormade irons or cobras

There's more than just measurement.  Also, go by what club fits what you need (most likely, given your experience, forgiveness and probably distance too), not by brand.  TaylorMade and Cobra make some great forgiving irons, but you don't want to play the set that Dustin Johnson or Rickie Fowler are playing. 

[dbuck]

I wouldn't buy clubs nor even change shafts just based on a random measurement like that. -.25 from what? Two different branded seven irons that had the same stated length could have a variation of that much. That is like sliding your hand down the club half the width of your pinky finger. Now if you go to a fitter and he says this club needs to have this lie and this length, that is something else.

If you are looking at a PING chart for instance, that is kind of specific to PING clubs-i.e. it would mean -.25 from THEIR standard.

There is nothing wrong with getting fitted, but all the numbers work together to produce a result.

It is difficult to just go shopping for used clubs that meet a certain spec when you don't really know what that spec is.

First ask yourself what are you really wanting to do?

What problems are you having?

 

[kylerdunn1]

Okay ill explain this all. I can hit my standard lenth cobras well. Straight. Straight striaght. Might not always make good contact but when i do its great. Most of my wood hits are amateur at best. I plan on buying the cobra f7 or the m2. Both used. I was curious if after i bought one of those driver and took ALL my current  clubs to get fitted, would they be able to fit those clubs to me? pretty sure thats a yes. But say next year i bought some titleist ap1 irons or something like that, would i have to get a refit or can they use my data from a previous club setup(my cobras) to fit a new set(ap1's or another set)? I just dont wanna dump money on this. i know golf isnt free. But im trying to not needlessly dump money on clubs either. And say i bought the m2 driver and got fitted for it. Would i be able to take info they gave me and get the shaft i want and do it myself?( my grandpa has worked on clubs for 20+ years). But would the info they give me, be enough to order a new shaft?

[Piz]

Why fix what isn't broken?  

[kylerdunn1]

because i have a budddy of similar build and when i swing his clubs its like butter, his are fitted and they feel smooth. it feels right. when i swing my cobras i really have to stretch my body out to keep the contact right. i think someone taller and way bigger than me had them fitted because they dont feel as natural as some shorted shafted clubs ive used. and honestly everyone needs fitted. and i know i know its not gonna cut my game down from high handicap to pro status. im 5'9 btw. relatively shorter arms 

[kylerdunn1]

8 hours ago, Piz said:

Why fix what isn't broken?  

I prefer improve what's there. Until I'm in the US Open there's always room for improvement. No matter if it's clubs,swing,etc. 

[Piz]

16 hours ago, kylerdunn1 said:

I prefer improve what's there. Until I'm in the US Open there's always room for improvement. No matter if it's clubs,swing,etc. 

If you are hitting your irons straight straight; you have already reached nirvana.  Unless you have a different trajectory, or tempo, in mind...I don't see the logic.  If you want to improve your iron play work with the solid game you have already established.  Teach yourself to work the ball...with your present iron set.  Otherwise you are going back to square one.  

[MarvChamp]

On 6/28/2018 at 4:44 AM, kylerdunn1 said:

i think someone taller and way bigger than me had them fitted because they dont feel as natural as some shorted shafted clubs ive used. and honestly everyone needs fitted. and i know i know its not gonna cut my game down from high handicap to pro status. im 5'9 btw. relatively shorter arms 

I have read that we higher handicappers could benefit from gripping down on the club and standing closer to the ball. We are same height BTW, and this always works for me. Gripping down and inch or two can't hurt. As far as hitting straight... I like it but have learned that almost no one does it. I play the natural curve my swing produces. Again, best of luck; this is a wonderfully difficult game. -Marv

[kylerdunn1]

1 hour ago, MarvChamp said:

I have read that we higher handicappers could benefit from gripping down on the club and standing closer to the ball. We are same height BTW, and this always works for me. Gripping down and inch or two can't hurt. As far as hitting straight... I like it but have learned that almost no one does it. I play the natural curve my swing produces. Again, best of luck; this is a wonderfully difficult game. -Marv

Thats exactly what i do but somedays when i play i forget to choke down on the grip and end up with a terrible shot. Thats why i figured fitted clubs would be more natural. 

1 hour ago, MarvChamp said:

I have read that we higher handicappers could benefit from gripping down on the club and standing closer to the ball. We are same height BTW, and this always works for me. Gripping down and inch or two can't hurt. As far as hitting straight... I like it but have learned that almost no one does it. I play the natural curve my swing produces. Again, best of luck; this is a wonderfully difficult game. -Marv

And by staight i mean i can get my ball flight aligned with my target. the ball doesnt always literally go STRAIGHT

[1badbadger]

On 6/27/2018 at 9:29 PM, kylerdunn1 said:

Okay ill explain this all. I can hit my standard lenth cobras well. Straight. Straight striaght. Might not always make good contact but when i do its great. Most of my wood hits are amateur at best. I plan on buying the cobra f7 or the m2. Both used. I was curious if after i bought one of those driver and took ALL my current  clubs to get fitted, would they be able to fit those clubs to me? pretty sure thats a yes. But say next year i bought some titleist ap1 irons or something like that, would i have to get a refit or can they use my data from a previous club setup(my cobras) to fit a new set(ap1's or another set)? I just dont wanna dump money on this. i know golf isnt free. But im trying to not needlessly dump money on clubs either. And say i bought the m2 driver and got fitted for it. Would i be able to take info they gave me and get the shaft i want and do it myself?( my grandpa has worked on clubs for 20+ years). But would the info they give me, be enough to order a new shaft?

Yes, a reputable shop will be able to fit your current clubs to you.  If you get a different set next year, yes, they can use the specs from your Cobras for the new set.  Keep a couple of things in mind though:

As @dbuck pointed out, there are no industry standards regarding club specifications.  L ength, lie angle, loft angle and swingweight can vary from manufacturer to manufacturer.  So it's important to go by actual measurements instead of non-specifics.  For example, if you say you need shafts -.25", does that mean -.25" of what they currently are, or -.25" from "standard"?  Same thing when people say their clubs need to be 2* upright.  2* upright of what?  To eliminate confusion, it's better to say "my 5 iron needs to be 37.75" in length with a 63* lie angle and 24* loft."  You'll have a list with the specs of all your clubs for reference.  Then next year whether you get AP1 or something else, your club builder can use that list to match the specs no matter what brand they are.

Having said that, if you are fairly new to the game or will be taking lessons during the next year, you might want to consider going through another fitting session when you get your next set of clubs. The reason is if you haven't been playing long or if you are going to take lessons, your swing will change quite a bit in the next year, so your current specs may not be what you need in a year.

[kylerdunn1]

1 hour ago, 1badbadger said:

Yes, a reputable shop will be able to fit your current clubs to you.  If you get a different set next year, yes, they can use the specs from your Cobras for the new set.  Keep a couple of things in mind though:

As @dbuck pointed out, there are no industry standards regarding club specifications.  L ength, lie angle, loft angle and swingweight can vary from manufacturer to manufacturer.  So it's important to go by actual measurements instead of non-specifics.  For example, if you say you need shafts -.25", does that mean -.25" of what they currently are, or -.25" from "standard"?  Same thing when people say their clubs need to be 2* upright.  2* upright of what?  To eliminate confusion, it's better to say "my 5 iron needs to be 37.75" in length with a 63* lie angle and 24* loft."  You'll have a list with the specs of all your clubs for reference.  Then next year whether you get AP1 or something else, your club builder can use that list to match the specs no matter what brand they are.

Having said that, if you are fairly new to the game or will be taking lessons during the next year, you might want to consider going through another fitting session when you get your next set of clubs. The reason is if you haven't been playing long or if you are going to take lessons, your swing will change quite a bit in the next year, so your current specs may not be what you need in a year.

that was my next question. My swing has came a long way this year. Im finally able to pick a target and go . My only problem is i cant pick a club up and go. I have to hit 5 or so shots before i get back in the rhythm. I dont think my muscle memory is exactly where it needs to be yet.