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Some of those would be wild. 600cc drivers in particular.

I wonder how it looks from the tee. Looks awfully tight from that angle.

Forgot how much fun we all had.

I agree with many of the comments from folks here. This is more a mental thing. I have played good rounds and bad rounds while playing slow. I find it is nice to have a good friend to play the round with to be able to talk with. Makes the time go by faster. To the questions about where to go, for me it is family stuff. Leaving my wife with the kid for 6-7 hours does not lend itself to the happy wife happy life theory. The faster I can get home, the less stress/frustration I will face.

Hank Haney was the first I came across to openly talk about the driver yips, in a recent article with Butch Harmon Danielle Kang said she had something similar. I think this isn't a very good description because the putting yips are quite unique and not possible really in a full swing. Lets put aside the name for a second, but I think what they were trying to portray was the idea that a golfer loses the confidence, or really just the ability to hit the driver, often it seeps into other clubs off the tee. I have definitely gone through big bouts with this. For long stretches over the past 10 years really I cannot hit a fairway. My typical miss is a push cut. Sometimes I will start over-correcting and hit some vicious hooks. I am fully aware this is a swing fault, but I haven't been able to fix it. I might go 2-3 rounds without hitting a big block, and then BAM, out of nowhere 60 yards right of where I was aiming. I have wanted to quit golf numerous times because it is SO frustrating. They are really unrecoverable events, because often they mean out of bounds or deep in the trees leading to doubles. If I have 2 of them early in a round the round is over before I get to the 10th tee sometimes. My issue stems from getting sort of lost trying really hard to hit up on the driver. I start leaning back too much and the face is wide open. But we are not here to talk only about me. I only relayed to story to let you know that you are not alone, and the only way to solve the problem is to seek professional help. Because it is most likely a swing fault it can be corrected. First the teacher will probably tell you what you are doing (so when you do it you know what happened) and then some keys to fix it. In my lessons I have been open with the teachers that I believe I have the driver yips so that the coach knows what they are dealing with. Sorry for the long rant.

I would have completely agreed with you if he just admitted it. Instead he hung his hat on the claim that he never did it. He could have used the excuse you shared. Everyone was doing it, and steroids don't improve the hand eye coordination of baseballers. Alas, his denial, basically throughout is what stops me from agreeing.

The truly sad part of this situation is Barry Bonds was a hall of famer before all the home runs. He didn't need all of that steroid stuff. He was a fantastic baseball player before he chose to do that. He had 5 seasons of 30/30 and a season of 40/40. Really a good player. I side with @iacas not only because he did it, but then to vehemently deny it when it was obvious. The circumstantial evidence alone was damning, then the details that followed proved what we knew. He should have just said he did it. Strange thing is, he was never liked. Even when playing with the Pirates he was hated, and then once the steroid thing went down he had few defenders because everyone disliked him. His ill-fated reality show was basically a display of how unhappy he was about being unloved.

So cool seeing everyone reviews of the experience. Thanks for sharing everyone who has.

As a fellow Oregonian golfer I appreciate your desire to leave. Here's to more sunny days and some roll on your driver.

I only see the fancy Instagram influencers wearing them. Never seen a pair on any golf course I've been at. Not sure that helps you with your decision. Sorry.

Most people are right, you are going to struggle to exist. I remember there was a PGA Tour store in Palo Alto which is only a 30 minute drive. Yeah, most people from SF don't want to drive down there, but it would be your biggest competition (assuming it is still there). I would argue if you wanted to sell clubs, balls, and the such you'd need to build a community location. It would have to have a simulator, probably 2, and would be spot people could come and have a party or just hang out. Once there (ideally drinking) you could convince people to buy things. You might start by trying to convince @iacas he should set up a west coast golf evolution location. Lastly, I disagree that SF has a thriving golf community. Yes it has a number of golf courses, but most good ones are private (Olympic, SF Golf Club, Lake Merced) or semi-private (Presidio) or just downright expensive (Harding Park). Lincoln Park is a fun track, but SUPER busy. I don't think it is easy to get out and play unless you leave the city.

Which are pretty bad IMHO. 😁 I like this idea also. I love Hard Knocks. Especially since they have added the in-season version. I worry that they will only show us the positive stuff, but hopefully we get a good inside look.

The more I think about this, the more I question the title of the article. The idea that there could be one thing that separates good from bad is really silly. Who defines good? Is good touring pro? If so, there are about 20-30mph of swing speed that separates us plenty. This article would be better served being titled, "One thing that could help you play your best more often". Not exactly catchy, but would have been a more accurate title. Not really fair. Martin Chuck is a pretty good teacher. We don't know what the magazine told him, or how they potentially twisted what he said. However, rating golf coaches is blasphemy. There is absolutely no point, and it is all bullsh*t. Similar to US News and their completely bogus college rankings.

Is this the first child created swing thread? How awesome is that! My only thought is he needs to keep his tilt. Shoulder are awful flat on the backswing, particularly A4. However, at that age, much more about having fun and hanging out with dad. One suggestion, non-golf swing related. I was talking with another dad about getting our kids into golf. His suggestion was based on his buddies strategy for soccer. He took his kids to games, and he would leave the game the second a kid asked to leave. No questions asked. He said that his buddies kids would start to go longer and longer into the game, but whenever they asked to leave he would. I think this is a good strategy for golf. I have the tendency to force my kid to finish the holes we have left to play. I won't plan to do that anymore. Maybe this helps, maybe not, but I thought it was some sound advice. By the way, he did say his buddies kids now stay for the whole game, and love going. So there might be something to it.

I haven’t posted much these days, just been busy with life, unfortunately I spend more time driving my kid around to soccer games these days than golfing but I like the idea of this thread. My incomplete list is full of old timers. @iacas for honest, insightful, and intelligent posts about golf. Always. The energy to make sure we all understand what’s important is uncanny. @Golfingdad for moral support and always a fresh attitude. Barney lives life right. @kpaulhus for the positive gamblers mentality. And Newport Cup drives that could range from 300 yard bombs to 65 yard duck hooks. Like a box of chocolates. @DaveP043 the best match play opponent anyone could dream of. @mvmac for discovering the secret to golf. Forget Ben Hogan he needs his own Life magazine article to explain it to us. @JetFan1983 for the Amanda videos. so many others I should mention but the truth is there are so many great people on here. Always been the best place to talk golf on the internet.

Oh, I really like this thread. Here is my video proposal (admittedly a SH!T ton better than the first) Likes Conversational about a player struggling with something in their swing (something I struggle with) Used shots to see how the player progressed Simple training aid everyone has around the house. Dislikes Only a few swings. Maybe a time lapse or something to show after they worked on it for a while A little long Not enough to tell players who this video is for

Yes, that is a very tough tee shot.

It was fun watching you progress. I also think you have a good temperament to do work officiating. I do hope you take that step as I think you'd be pretty good at it.

I don't think they have rolled out their subscription plan yet. From the kickstarter they are offering to give 3 if you buy 3. The subscription may be a whole different plan and a different cost structure.

Yes, the pricing model is not great for a direct to consumer model. This may have something to do with giving an equal amount of gloves to charity. At $20 you are really buying one for $10 and giving one to a new golfer for $10. Again, this is admirable, but requires you to want to help out junior golf in Canada. I am on the fence about contributing. I like to help out new businesses who do kickstarters and are related to golf when I can. But I prefer to give my time (coaching or giving tips) to charities such as the First Tee rather than a golf glove.

The Jones Bag company is just down the street from my house and are really great people. I have used their bags in the past and been very satisfied.

I am surprised you feel this way. Granting a membership to the CEO of IBM and a former Secretary of State did not move any needles in my mind. It stood out for what it was, a PR stunt.

Good point regarding the timing. We go every year in mid-May (except last year as some of the courses were still closed) and we play great courses very affordably. Sometimes we can get 100 degree days, but it is a dry heat (at least that is what we tell ourselves).

Some of my personal favorites outside of the PGA West courses I mentioned in no particular order: Shadow Ridge Indian Wells (both courses, Celebrity and I forget the other) Mission Hills (I like the Dye the best, but Player is a nice round) Eagle Falls Desert Willow (both courses, excellent QPR) Classic Club Escena (also a decent QPR)

Welcome to TST! I find the discussion about the Stadium course to be quite controversial among my golfing buddies. I think if you are considering it, you should absolutely do it. It is a great course, almost always in great shape, and has many memorable holes and shots. The whether its worth the money, is where the debate begins. There are TONS of great courses in the Palm Springs area. Even just in PGA West, there is the Norman course, which I really like. There is the Nicklaus course (not as good as Stadium, but still a decent course). SilverRock. The La Quinta courses you mentioned. So many. My opinion? As I stated before, I would highly recommend it.