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Man how I wish the PGA Tour had Rule 88 like the LPGA. John Daly would finally get what he deserves.

What a sad sack of humanity he's become. I never believed - as much as I'd have liked to - that he was "recovering," but to go out there today and just mail it in and shoot 88 is an insult to his peers, his fans, and himself.

Daly's gone from tragedy to tragic, from pitiable to pitiful, and hopeful to hopeless.

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zeg Great Member

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Urban Dictionary definition for Rule 88: "If it exists, there's a furry version of it." Didn't realize the LPGA was that kinky... ( http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...term=Rule%2088 )

Actually, from Googling around it seems clear that the rule is some sort of ban on playing for a year if you turn in a score of 88 or higher. Is there an authoritative definition of the rule somewhere? Is it an actual written rule? I tried searching the site and, unfortunately, 88 is not a valid search term...

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How is that even possible for someone of his ability?

Honestly, I think he knew he was out of it yesterday and wanted to create some drama for his new TV show. You can really make some "reality drama" out of a terrible round like that. He was probably trying to make the most worse shot he could as it would be a great segue to the next scene after the commercial break. A real cliff hanger shot.
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Urban Dictionary definition for Rule 88: "If it exists, there's a furry version of it." Didn't realize the LPGA was that kinky... (

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http://www.golf.com/golf/tours_news/...626928,00.html

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He just has the demeanor of not caring whether he shoots well or not. His swings are lazy, with the exception of his driver. I don't know what happened to him but it's really sad. He is a hometown guy that I used to really pull for and now I can't even watch him play.

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Man how I wish the PGA Tour had Rule 88 like the LPGA. John Daly would finally get what he deserves.

And what does that get him? Another "reality show" on the golf channel. I can see that type of "reality" on my home course any day of the week...
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Jees guys. He had one bad day (any maybe mails it in a bit) and all of a sudden he's the worst guy ever and unwatchable and...

I mean come on. Didn't Bobby Jones pick up once? Its noy like big john fell off the wagon again, he just had a terrible day.
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Man how I wish the PGA Tour had Rule 88 like the LPGA. John Daly would finally get what he deserves.

I am or was a JD fan and like you hoped he was recovering. Giving up is sad and is making me rethink rooting for him any longer. He needs his ass kicked for todays stunt!!

JD thinks he has a rough life.....walk in my shoes for a while it would do him good!!

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I love JD to death, but even I'm getting sick and tired of this crap. At least put forth some effort and go down swinging.

Pathetic.

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Jees guys. He had one bad day (any maybe mails it in a bit) and all of a sudden he's the worst guy ever and unwatchable and...

JD has had bad days like this for years. It's past time he got it together.

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In my opinion that is part of what makes John Daly so interesting and intruiging. It's never out of the realm of possibility that he goes really low, or goes really high. Although I hate seeing people (one of my friends) adopt the whole over-swing, grip it and rip it, bomb and gouge attitude.

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Jees guys. He had one bad day (any maybe mails it in a bit) and all of a sudden he's the worst guy ever and unwatchable and...

At this point, he's awfully close to the being the "worst guy ever and unwatchable." I've now crossed over from liking JD to not really caring one way or the other to full on disliking the guy. Spitting in the face of his talent like that makes him a joke, a disgrace. It's disrespectful to the game, his peers, and his fans.

I mean come on. Didn't Bobby Jones pick up once? Its noy like big john fell off the wagon again, he just had a terrible day.

Bobby Jones threw a club once too. So okay, the guy made two mistakes... then went on to grow from those, work hard, earn the respect of everyone, and WIN. John Daly's made hundreds of mistakes and hasn't learned from any of them. Ever.

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ArrrrJay Established Member

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I realize he played horribly today, but...

Did he struggle and try? I haven't watched any of his round, but on the front 9 he had 2 out of bounds shots, and 2 four putts... We all know how putting is a mental game, and if he struggled but was trying, I have no beef...

If he was standing there putting with one hand, while smoking a cig, I get your point...

Never heard of rule 88 till now.

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At this point, he's awfully close to the being the "worst guy ever and unwatchable." I've now crossed over from liking JD to not really caring one way or the other to full on disliking the guy. Spitting in the face of his talent like that makes him a joke, a disgrace. It's disrespectful to the game, his peers, and his fans.

A little harsh towards JD, don't you think? After all, with a little thought, we can find dozens of PGA guys who were successful in the 90's and haven't done anything in the 2000's (Parnevik, just as an example).

Golf is cruel, and there is no guarantee that if JD had done things differently with his life, that he would be more successful. Many guys have had their game desert them, and they didn't party, didn't drink, didn't embarrass themselves publicly. Yet their game is still gone. I say give JD a little slack. Given his Thursday performance, he knew that only shooting "lights out" on Friday would make the cut. When it became clear that he wasn't going to shoot anything near what he needed (a 10 on the par-5 killed him), I'm sure a loss of focus, along with anger and frustration, soon set in. He's human. At least he didn't fake an injury, or just pick up...

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Cussin hacker Great Member

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JD has more talent than any 3 of us put together. He could have had a Tiger like record if he had half Tigers will. He still could have a nice finish, but he really needs to get things together to do so. It's just sad for fans to see him make the same BS mistakes over and over.

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I realize he played horribly today, but...

Keep in mind, he started the round on the back nine. Played reasonably well (about even par) until his eighth (17th) hole. Got on a bogey train and couldn't get off. I think he went bogey, double-bogey, then the 10 on a par-5 (2 OB drives!). After that, I think he was done...

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I never believed - as much as I'd have liked to - that he was "recovering," but to go out there today and just mail it in and shoot 88 is an insult to his peers, his fans, and himself.

I think the biggest insult is to the tournament organisers who give him an invitation. Let's hope that the other tournament organisers get the message and offer a place to someone who truly deserves or appreciates it.

Like you, I'm over him.

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