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The brand or style of irons you play is probably not very important.

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sean_miller Incredible Member

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A lot of posts ask which is the best set of irons for a ______ handicapper. Which ones have you tried? Which ones did you like and why? What type of swing do you have?

Are some irons better suited to a certain style of play? Of course, but nobody ever seems to provide that information. And what answers do they get? Check the poster's signature line - it's probably whatever they hit. It makes sense that people like what they buy and/or buy what they like, but isn't the fact they're in the bag in the first place your personal seal of approval?

Unless someone is asking about an iron set's quality control or general value (e.g. ruggedness, resale, consistent lies and lofts, adjustability, customer service, projected lifespan, being prone to bag chatter) I don't understand the purely glowing recommendations. There's nothing you'd change? Really? You don't wish your new chrome plated blades didn't blind innocent bystanders on a sunny day? Nobody wishes their satin finish irons would look like that longer than a year - without using iron covers? Nobody wishes their X24 whatchamacallits didn't look like a bag of halloween candy?

And the playability or scoring?

Come on, you could shoot the same score with any similar iron, regardless of brand. I know that you're not me and I'm not you (profoundness) but come on, after a 1/2 hour range session or 9 holes you really should be familiar with your sticks. The worst part of this annoying type of thread? I'm as guilty as anyone. I've made recommendations to people I don't know and if they don't work out for them? Oh well.


What's my point?

Trust me, it's not the arrow. Yeah, I just said that. Buy the sticks already - no the brand doesn't matter. Get some lessons. Just git'er done!!

Mizuno MP600 driver, Cleveland '09 Launcher 3-wood, Callaway FTiz 18 degree hybrid, Cleveland TA1 3-9, Scratch SS8620 47, 53, 58, Cleveland Classic 2 mid-mallet, Bridgestone B330S, Sun Mountain four5.

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enis750 Great Member

enis750

Miller, cmon
we all know its not the indian its the arrow ;)
how do you think the Marketing guru's make the major OEM's sooo much $$ ????
"My swing is homemade - but I have perfect flaws!" - Me
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chrisronline Established Member

chrisronline

So, I think what you are saying is that Mizuno makes the best irons on the market? :)

Sticks: Burner SF 9.5, 15, 19 | MX-300 4-GW | CG15 56.14, 60.12 | BS Tour #9
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mcgriff Well Established Member

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So, I think what you are saying is that Mizuno makes the best irons on the market? :)

As a matter of fact, they do

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MX-100 4h, 5h, 6-gap Reg
MP T 10 56.10, 60.08Bullseye putter

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James_Black Great Member

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it's nice to show off your shiny new sticks though.

I'm only a few shots worse with wooden drivers and old blades than I am with my normal clubs

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Wood - sam snead persimmon 2 wood (for windy days)
Hybrid burner tour launch 20* stiff flex.
Irons - Tour Mode 3i,4i stiffIrons - FP's 5-PW R-flexWedge - spin milled 54.14Wedge - spin milled 60.07Putter - Victoria Lowest round 2010: 79 (par 70)Latest rounds at...

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Stretch Super Member

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Typical Chick Harbert fanboy BS. Real men game Burkemos.

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tristanhilton85 Great Member

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Absolutely right... for the most part people are going to recommend what they have, thats why they use those particular clubs. I really don't have too much of a problem with these threads and sometimes they are put up to give some sort of starting point. A lot of times, even most of the time I might say, these threads are started by high hcp players and/or those new to golf; and they really may not have an idea of where to start. This may give them that.

The other reason I think these threads get started is that the poster is really looking for some sort of justification to buy whatever set of clubs that they want... We all know that what really matters is hitting the clubs for ourselves and seeing what we feel fits our game.

As to your point about scoring the same with similar clubs, I think you have it right again. As much as people say that the Mizunos are like butter or whatever, I don't think that there would be a huge difference between the MP__ and say the Titleist 710. As it's been said so many times, the indian not the arrow.

With regards to making recommendations of clubs to other people, it's really hard, especially when you don't know the person at all. If anything I'll just say what I've used or demoed in the past and how they worked out for me... Why I liked 'em, why I didn't.

So basically, to sum it up... Take recommendations from others with a grain of salt, people will recommend what they use and like and the problem with that, as miller put it so profoundly above, is, "you're not me and I'm not you." If you're looking for a starting point or a few ideas, thats cool by me... If you're trying to justify a new (unnecessary) purchase to yourself (or possibly the wife, etc.), just go get what you want (you were going to anyways).

Tristan Hilton

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PXG 0211 Driver (Diamana S+ 60; 10.5°) · PXG 0211 FWs (Diamana S+ 60; 15° and 21°) · PXG 0211 Hybrids (MMT 80; 22°, 25°, and 28°) · PXG 0311P Gen 2 Irons (SteelFiber i95; 7-PW) · Edel Wedges (KBS Hi-Rev; 50°, 55°, 60°) · Edel Classic Blade Putter (32") · Vice Pro or Maxfli Tour · Pinned Prism Rangefinder · Star Grips · Flightscope Mevo · TRUE Linkswear Shoes · Sun Mountain C130S Bag

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sean_miller Incredible Member

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Typical Chick Harbert fanboy BS. Real men game Burkemos.

I'd love to, but they're out of my price range. I also gave up on filling out my partial set of Olin Dutras.

Mizuno MP600 driver, Cleveland '09 Launcher 3-wood, Callaway FTiz 18 degree hybrid, Cleveland TA1 3-9, Scratch SS8620 47, 53, 58, Cleveland Classic 2 mid-mallet, Bridgestone B330S, Sun Mountain four5.

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Zeph Incredible Member

Zeph

I agree with this thread.

What does matter is club length, lie and shaft. Some clubs will feel better, but I'm sure any good player could play just as well with any club.
Ironically, I bought my clubs from eBay because of the Mizuno hype.

If I could pick two things on my clubs, it would be the shaft and clubhead. Length and lie are not as important factors. The clubhead and shaft, weight and flex, are important. If the club just feels too heavy, I won't like it. I can probably play good golf with it, but not feel as comfortable.

Of all the factors in a round of golf that makes a difference, clubs are not very high compared to the swing.

Ogio Grom | Callaway X Hot Pro | Callaway X-Utility 3i | Mizuno MX-700 23º | Titleist Vokey SM 52.08, 58.12 | Mizuno MX-700 15º | Titleist 910 D2 9,5º | Scotty Cameron Newport 2 | Titleist Pro V1x and Taylormade Penta | Leupold GX-1

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sean_miller Incredible Member

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So you are saying there is a chance that the brand or style is important?

For everyone who's suggested a newb give up whatever shiny forged poser gear he's "gaming" in favour of wide soled SGI fugomatics, this thread is for you.

For everyone who's second guessed an experienced player's decision to not fill their bag with forged players irons (thus missing out on a lifetime of potential long term success and joy right around the corner), this thread is for you.

Mizuno MP600 driver, Cleveland '09 Launcher 3-wood, Callaway FTiz 18 degree hybrid, Cleveland TA1 3-9, Scratch SS8620 47, 53, 58, Cleveland Classic 2 mid-mallet, Bridgestone B330S, Sun Mountain four5.

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Genericity Established Member

Genericity

The brand or style of irons you play is probably not very important, sure I agree with brand, but the style/model and characteristics of the club are a factor, maybe not huge, but still a factor that just can't simply be ignored or written off.

Titleist Bias - 907D2 9.5 V2 Stiff | 906F2 15 V2 Stiff | 710MB 3-PW DG300 | 52, 56 SM Vokes | Tom Slighter - 2007 Tacoma FPR

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Deryck Griffith Great Member

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While I generally agree with the statement in the OP, there are a couple brands that offer a specific feature that can assist a golfer with his game and for that individual, that feature could be important to them and usually, only someone who is highly experienced will benefit from that specific feature..... aside from that, there is nothing wrong with wanting to buy nice gear. What is wrong is thinking that nice new gear will shave strokes. For most, getting fit properly to their new irons (no matter what brand you own) is what can help with their game tremendously.

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Titleist 910 D3: 9.5deg GD Tour AD DI7x | Nike Dymo 3W: 15deg, UST S-flex | Mizuno MP CLK Hybrid: 20deg, Project X Tour Issue 6.5, HC1 Shaft | Mizuno MP-57 4-PW, DG X100 Shaft, 1deg upright | Cleveland CG15 Wedges: 52, 56, 60deg | Scotty Cameron California Del Mar | TaylorMade Penta, TP Black LDP, Nike 20XI-X

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I think style of iron is important. I'm a 19+ HDCP, down a tad from 21+ last year.

I stayed away from the Big Bertha and G10 irons because they popped the ball up in the air too much.

Likewise, I stayed away from the Callaway X-prototypes and Titleist MBs, and the Mizuno MP-68 because I'm not a good enough ball striker - I need more foregiveness than they allow.

The irons which fit me would be the X20s (which I use), possibly X20 Tours if I improved a bit, the AP1s, and the Ping I15s. This assumes that I have the correct shaft on the irons for my swing speed and shot shape. I have test hit all these irons in the last 15 months, and I'm sure any of them would serve me fine once I got them "zeroed in."

I'll agree that brand is not essential, but style or type of iron is.

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tristanhilton85 Great Member

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I think style of iron is important. I'm a 19+ HDCP, down a tad from 21+ last year.

Yup... find the type/style of iron and the right shaft and you're set... The specific brand and model don't really matter; this is simply where personal preference and looks come in. You may find that you like the looks of one brand over another, but really there isn't a difference (at least not really any significant ones) between one company's iron and another company's in the same category (i.e. blade compared to blade, gi to gi, etc.)

Tristan Hilton

My Equipment: 
PXG 0211 Driver (Diamana S+ 60; 10.5°) · PXG 0211 FWs (Diamana S+ 60; 15° and 21°) · PXG 0211 Hybrids (MMT 80; 22°, 25°, and 28°) · PXG 0311P Gen 2 Irons (SteelFiber i95; 7-PW) · Edel Wedges (KBS Hi-Rev; 50°, 55°, 60°) · Edel Classic Blade Putter (32") · Vice Pro or Maxfli Tour · Pinned Prism Rangefinder · Star Grips · Flightscope Mevo · TRUE Linkswear Shoes · Sun Mountain C130S Bag

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Stretch Super Member

Stretch

I like big butts and I can not lie. You other brothers can't deny -- that you've always wanted a pitching hybrid.

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