Iron Tee Shots

Why are you changing ball position when on the tee? You should keep the same ball position as when your hitting out of the fairway.

If it's forward in your stance, you are hitting it on the upswing and thus it's thin shot.

I tee the ball just so it's barely above the grass.

Even though it's teed up, you should still be hitting down on the ball and taking a divot.

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Originally Posted by Jwat381 

I seem to have a mental block anytime I'm teeing up with an Iron, which is usually a par 3. I can hit from fairways or rough and get the ball up in the direction I at least want it to go, but once I'm on the tee box, about 60% of the time I get a thin shot that moves a little to the right.

 

What are your guys' routines and thoughts on par 3's, and how high do you tee the ball? I usually tee it to where it's just hovering above the ground in with the grass and play it a little forward in my stance. When I am able to strike the ball, it's usually not too bad, although 3's are still my worst holes on the golf course. I did recently find out that I'm left eye dominant, so I've added a little head tilt to my pre shot routine and address position to get my left eye focused over the top of the ball, and this has improved my ball striking immensely, and I haven't played a round since I added this subtle little change. Still hoping that some of you may have some genius thought that I haven't taken into account when it comes to the damn par 3's.

If they have a container of sand/seed mix available, get prepared to use it. Just like in the fairway, try to make sure the bottom of your divot is 4-6 inches beyond where your tee was and fill the divot when you're done.

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Originally Posted by Motley01 

Why are you changing ball position when on the tee? You should keep the same ball position as when your hitting out of the fairway.

 

If it's forward in your stance, you are hitting it on the upswing and thus it's thin shot.

 

I tee the ball just so it's barely above the grass.

 

Even though it's teed up, you should still be hitting down on the ball and taking a divot.

I play most irons at or ahead of centre and I don't hit the ball on the upswing.
 

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Originally Posted by Jwat381 

I seem to have a mental block anytime I'm teeing up with an Iron, which is usually a par 3. I can hit from fairways or rough and get the ball up in the direction I at least want it to go, but once I'm on the tee box, about 60% of the time I get a thin shot that moves a little to the right.

 

What are your guys' routines and thoughts on par 3's, and how high do you tee the ball? I usually tee it to where it's just hovering above the ground in with the grass and play it a little forward in my stance. When I am able to strike the ball, it's usually not too bad, although 3's are still my worst holes on the golf course. I did recently find out that I'm left eye dominant, so I've added a little head tilt to my pre shot routine and address position to get my left eye focused over the top of the ball, and this has improved my ball striking immensely, and I haven't played a round since I added this subtle little change. Still hoping that some of you may have some genius thought that I haven't taken into account when it comes to the damn par 3's.

IMO, you're just placing undue pressure on yourself trying to hit a perfect shot or trying to steer the ball on those par 3s.  I went down the dominate eye route too, and it didn't do much for me (right handed golfer with right eye dominate).  But, if it works for you, then great.  However, I've found that my performance on par 3s improved when I effectively clubbed up.  Meaning that I would find out the distance to the back of the green and select a club that would get me close to that.  IME, since a mishit rarely goes further than expected (bladed wedges notwithstanding), I find that I'm more apt to at least find the surface of the green.  From there, the worst case scenario is that I 3-putt for bogey,  In contrast, when I miss the green (depending on how bad I miss it), I bring in double or worse.

On par-3s, I tee the ball so that its just barely off the ground.  That way I can make my normal iron swing and still hit down at the ball.

For iron shots from the tee box, I literally just drop the ball on the ground where there aren't too many divots, and play it as it lies.  I find placing the ball on a tee, no matter how low I set it,  just makes me prone to trying to pick it, instead of trying to take a divot.  It's probably more of a mental thing, but hey, it works for me, so I am not about to mess with it.

I know what you mean. Same thing happens to me some times. It really is a mental thing I think. Iits kinda like how hitting an iron shot from the first cut (just a little fluff under the ball) is visually more appealing than from a tight lie in the fairway sometimes.

Ball position should be center for mid-short irons, and just ahead of center for long irons.  If you're moving your weight towards the target, with most of it on your left foot at impact, you'll be hitting down on the ball.

I've read a few places, most notably Jack Nicklaus said this over and over again, that when you've got a chance to tee it up a bit, do it.  He always teed his irons up (unless hitting a wedge) just a little above ground level.  It gives you just that extra little bit of guarantee that you won't hit it fat:  if the ball is slightly above the ground, and you're hitting down and through the shot, it decreases the chance that you'll catch the ground first.

I recently put this into play, and I can say that it helps.  I think you just have to focus on the positive things that are supposed to result from what you're doing and the results will come.

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Originally Posted by Jwat381 

Yeah I'm pretty convinced it's mostly mental. I'll try clubbing up more, sometimes my ego just gets in the way. I'm not too bad of a putter and rarely 3-putt, so if I could just routinely find the green, I'd feel so much better off the 3's.

 

Amen to that.  Trust me, I battled with that too, so you're not alone.  When playing with my buds, they would sometimes ask what I hit (to reach the par 3 we were playing) and I would respond with, "Titleist".  And, I wasn't trying to be a smart-ass, I was just embarrased that I used a 5i when the distance to the flag is normally a 7i.  However, once you get the positive reinforcement of hitting the green on a consistent basis, then some of the "anxiety" goes away and you gain more confidence.  In fact, after becoming more confident and relaxed, I found myself hitting too much club to where I was hitting the ball over the greens.  Because of that, I've been able to trust my swing more, so now I tend to just select the club that I need to reach the flag and just swing away.  More often than not, the results are pretty decent.

One golfer I played with had a decent method; he'd play off a low tee on most holes, but simply play off the ground if he wanted to take 4-6 yards off the shot. Seems like a pretty smart method for taking a little bit off the shot, though I prefer a tee myself. It might help you feel like you have a better club for an awkward distance, and you can club up to a hybrid or comfortable iron by playing back in the tee box off the deck. This works best on an unprotected green, since you might not get the same spin and height, so it might land short and roll a bit. 

One other thing you can do is play your ball right in front of or behind a divot on the tee box, which will give you a different look and might help you feel like you can attack the ball better. One trick I've used, that is more of a band aid fix, is to play it a bit farther from your body. This will make you hit it a bit more left and you'll reach for it more, making it less likely to be thin. I'd recommend trying to simply adjust your swing and setup to find a consistent way, however.

Sometimes on par 4's i will hit up on the ball a bit with my iron off the tee, but most of the time i just hit it like a normal iron shot. Same position, same swing. I use to have that problem, it just takes some getting use to, mentally saying, its just a normal iron shot. Think of it this way, pretend your in the fairway when your on the tee box. Look out and imagine the green were you will land the ball in the fairway. Basically recreate were you hit the irons good in your mind before you hit the shot. The best way to do this is during your practice swing.

Hi,

I'm also Left eye dominant and right handed, and have had terrible trouble hitting my irons solidly off a tee, I know your pain!! And although a lot of advice is well meant, we are a "special" and need to tweak things a little to get the normal methods to work. No right handed, right eye doninant person would understand our problems fully, because when we look down the line, even if we know we're lined up correctly, it just looks wrong!..

Anyway, after many hours surfing and many hours practising and playing, these are my findings and this seems to work for me.

Grip - I use the Vardon grip, left thumb down the shaft, right hand "V" pointing between my chin and my ear.

Stance - I use the Leadbetter stance with my feet splayed out to 20° ( I do this because I also have the happy habbit of swaying in my back swing - Old Git problem!!) - stance parallel to hole. I also try to get my chin aimed at the logo on my club shafts

Ball position - I use Nicklaus/Hogan method, keeping my ball 2" inside of my left heel - for all irons and hybrids. And I put the ball name (or line) along the direction of the intended target, helps line me up.

Teeing up of ball - I usually use old discarded/broken tees (found lying around all over the course), and tee the ball up so that I can just, and only just get the tips of my fingers under the head of the tee.

I concentrate on hitting the inside quarter of the ball (eg - between 3 and 6 o'clock).

I turn my head slightly to the left (very slightly). And try to make sure I take a divot like an ordinary iron shot..

Hope this helps, as I've said, it works for me. Good luck.