Originally Posted by mad max
Thanks Zeg. I know I am being annoying but but if the same thing happens in a hazard I asume that you would place the ball in the hazard no closer to the hole? Some courses in my area leave the rake in the bunker. Would you still be able to clean the ball? Thanks.
Guys are more than happy to answer rules questions.........that's what this is for.
If the ball moves while moving a movable obstruction, you replace the ball, no penalty. Makes no difference if the ball is in a hazard, green, or through the green. If the ball when placed, will not stay in it's position, then you follow 20-3d which zeg mentioned. If you are in a hazard the ball must be placed in the hazard so your assumption is correct.
As far as cleaning your ball, yes you may clean it. There are only 3 rules which allow you to lift your ball and not clean it.
5-3 Ball unfit for Play.....when you lift your ball to see if it is unfit for play.
12-2 Lifting a ball for identification.....when you have to lift a ball to identify it.
22-1, 22-2 Lifting a ball that is either assisting or interfering play of another ball.
d. Ball Fails to Come to Rest on Spot
If a ball when placed fails to come to rest on the spot on which it was placed, there is no penalty and the ball must be replaced. If it still fails to come to rest on that spot:
(i) except in a hazard, it must be placed at the nearest spot where it can be placed at rest that is not nearer the hole and not in a hazard;
(ii) in a hazard, it must be placed in the hazard at the nearest spot where it can be placed at rest that is not nearer the hole.
If a ball when placed comes to rest on the spot on which it is placed, and it subsequently moves, there is no penalty and the ball must be played as it lies, unless the provisions of any other Rule apply.