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My First Round with a "Playing Condition Calculation" (PCC) Adjustment


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15 minutes ago, gbogey said:

I thought that the "PCC" was going to be a positive aspect of the new system but if it's going to be this complicated I'm not sure that it's worth it.  Or I could just do like a buddy of mine in NJ who just wouldn't play if the wind was supposed to be more than 15 mph (I'm guessing most of my PCC is wind related).

What’s complicated for you or me?  There’s either an adjustment made, or there isn’t.  We don’t need to do a thing one way or another.  Nor do we need to understand the algorithm.  

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49 minutes ago, gbogey said:

I thought that the "PCC" was going to be a positive aspect of the new system but if it's going to be this complicated I'm not sure that it's worth it.

Like what David said, what's complicated about it?

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On 3/2/2020 at 6:26 PM, iacas said:

It’s not about cold or wind or rain. It’s about scoring only. It’s an algorithm.

OK, this is the first I've heard of this. What is this algorithm for? What is it supposed to do? From the title of it, it sounds like it would give us northerners some extra strokes when we're out mucking around in the slop in March and April!  

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1 minute ago, Buckeyebowman said:

OK, this is the first I've heard of this. What is this algorithm for? What is it supposed to do? From the title of it, it sounds like it would give us northerners some extra strokes when we're out mucking around in the slop in March and April!  

Look it up man. These things have been discussed a ton.

Page 12 or so here:

 

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9 hours ago, iacas said:

I suspect we may never see that, or when we do, it's for perhaps two rounds where the course setup changes or something (as they might do for a flighted event or something).

In other words, I doubt the weather one will be used very often at all, but the second bullet point in 5.6/2 may be used occasionally.

Rarely.

Do you think aerated sand covered greens would show up for a course? I would assume the scores would go up a couple.

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Just now, Papa Steve 55 said:

Do you think aerated sand covered greens would show up for a course? I would assume the scores would go up a couple.

It’s just an algorithm.

 

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12 hours ago, David in FL said:

What’s complicated for you or me?  There’s either an adjustment made, or there isn’t.  We don’t need to do a thing one way or another.  Nor do we need to understand the algorithm.  

Such a boolean response!  :-P

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33 minutes ago, boogielicious said:

Such a boolean response!  :-P

Word of the day!  😁

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Is there any way to know what the PCC was for a given day on a given course if you don't have an official handicap?  If not, then I guess the days of figuring your own handicap are over?

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2 minutes ago, sacm3bill said:

Is there any way to know what the PCC was for a given day on a given course if you don't have an official handicap?  If not, then I guess the days of figuring your own handicap are over?

Not really, no. You could look at someone's handicap record at your club each day, though.

It's not going to come up all that often, though. You can pretty much keep track and probably be fine most of the time.

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I played a course yesterday from blue tees that were clearly moved up from what they normally are. I contemplated posting my score from the white tees instead because most of the time the blue tees were on the same tee box as the whites. I didn’t but my friend and I spoke after the round about whether something like that would be adjusted using the PCC. 
 

Turns out it was! I looked at my posting this morning and it has a PCC adjustment of -1 meaning the course played easier than normal. Interesting. 

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