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Sand Valley in Wisconsin, already home to two of the top Golfweek’s Best Modern Courses in the United States, has big plans for a third 18. And while it will be new, this track by Tom Doak won’t be…

A guy on GCA has been digitally re-creating the course, and I've heard they're going to use his map to convert it to a topo-map with 1' increments.

Pretty amazing.

LOTS of pictures in that article that I encourage you to check out.

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Another good article on this:

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The Keiser family teams up with Tom Doak to recreate the lost C.B. Macdonald course in Central Wisconsin

 

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The site:

The video:

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Sand Valley Trip #2 😁

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41 minutes ago, saevel25 said:

Sand Valley Trip #2 😁

He said it. I didn't. He did. Yup. 

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21 minutes ago, GolfLug said:

He said it. I didn't. He did. Yup. 

Weren’t you there when we talked about going back for Lido? I’m pretty sure we discussed it amongst those of us who were at the food truck when @cipher and @Hardspoon were playing The Sandbox on the last day at SV.

I don’t really have a bucket list, but this one makes the cut. I’d make another WI/SV trip sometime in the future.

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1 hour ago, saevel25 said:

Sand Valley Trip #2 😁

😁

33 minutes ago, GolfLug said:

He said it. I didn't. He did. Yup. 

😁

8 minutes ago, billchao said:

Weren’t you there when we talked about going back for Lido? I’m pretty sure we discussed it amongst those of us who were at the food truck when @cipher and @Hardspoon were playing The Sandbox on the last day at SV.

I don’t really have a bucket list, but this one makes the cut. I’d make another WI/SV trip sometime in the future.

I am not really even sure why exactly but this course is just fascinating to me. Even though it is a replica. Maybe because it is so different from the others there, but it just looks fun.  I have to play it one way or another. 

Whistling was an experience I am good with playing just once. The SV property I feel like I need to visit every year with my proximity.

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20 minutes ago, cipher said:

😁

😁

Whistling was an experience I am good with playing just once. The SV property I feel like I need to visit every year with my proximity.

Whistling a bit too rich for my blood at $700+ but SV/MD is a solid deal. 

 

25 minutes ago, cipher said:

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I am not really even sure why exactly but this course is just fascinating to me. Even though it is a replica. Maybe because it is so different from the others there, but it just looks fun.  I have to play it one way or another. 

I'm curious enough to be geeked up about it for sure.

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4 minutes ago, cipher said:

I am not really even sure why exactly but this course is just fascinating to me. Even though it is a replica.

I think it’s fascinating to me because it’s a replica. Also it’s a replica of a course that no longer exists, so the idea of being able to play a course that I couldn’t have otherwise is appealing.

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If you are interested in knowing more about about this course here are a couple videos for you.

From the Golf Channel, this is the most comprehensive video I have seen about the course:

https://www.golfchannel.com/video/2019-pga-championship-lido-golf-club-lost-golf-treasure

This one first talks about some of the history, and then you can see the holes one by one.


 

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It is starting to look pretty incredible @iacas.  The channel par 5 hole has some interesting options for how to play it with a more aggressive fairway to the right that looks tough to hit. It is around 8:20 in the 2K21 video. Many of the green complexes look amazing as well. I can't wait.

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That's a very cool project, while challenging for the best players it does look like it has other options for the less talented when the winds are kicking up which is probably most of the time.

 

 


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Check out the photos of Ban Rakat Club’s new Ballyshear Links, designed by Gil Hanse to replicate the famous template holes of the Lido.

 

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Strategy, difficulty and beauty on full display in these photos of Sand Valley’s new Lido course.
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