Importance of palms facing each other in grip??

[iacas]

42 minutes ago, collapse said:

My experience with the palm /fingers issue  is it doesn't matter if the club is in the palm or "fingers" of the lead/upper hand as long as the pre-hinge and cocking are done correctly,but the club can only be in the palm of the lower hand if using a ten finger grip otherwise fingers are required for the interlock or overlap.

Putting the grip too far in the palm inhibits cocking/hinging the club properly.

30 minutes ago, craps said:

For golfers who cannot swing that good because of athleticism, a strong grip with 2 knuckles showing and a right hand underneath so that palms facing each other couple with swinging out to 1 o'clock works the most. Mind you that this grip will show a closed face. You have to forward press to make it square at address.. In addition make sure your sternum has to be inline with the low point which is usually the 1/3 back part of the ball. Works beautiful for me. It might work for you!

Two knuckles is a strong grip now? I can take an awfully weak grip and see two knuckles.

I also don't know what you mean about how a grip will "show a closed face." The grip is round: without moving your hands if you could twist the club in your grip you could point the clubface anywhere.

@craps, seriously pal, I don't mean to keep harping on this, but you seem to have some strange ideas about the golf swing, and if you're really a 24 handicap, there are way, way more important things for you to worry about than your grip being palmy or "two knuckle strong" or what have you.

Post a Member Swing here. You'll get help.

[dchoye]

1 hour ago, collapse said:

My experience with the palm /fingers issue  is it doesn't matter if the club is in the palm or "fingers" of the lead/upper hand as long as the pre-hinge and cocking are done correctly,but the club can only be in the palm of the lower hand if using a ten finger grip otherwise fingers are required for the interlock or overlap.

I find that if I grip more along the base of the fingers I feel like I have better control of the club face/back.

However I don't feel I can get as much power.

When hold the club more along the "meaty" part of the hand I can sustain the pressure from CF more effectively.

There's pros and cons from both. So there's nothing definite for me, it just depends.

But more of a CF swing coupled with positive AoA seems to work better for me.

if I have to hit down then I tend to grip more towards the fingers.

Edited November 27, 2015 by dchoye

[iacas]

Just now, dchoye said:

I find that if I grip more along the base of the fingers I feel like I have better control of the club face/back.

However I don't feel I can get as much power.

When hold the club more along the "meaty" part of the hand I can sustain the pressure from CF more effectively.

CF? Are we talking MORAD stuff?

Generally you can get more power by putting the club in the fingers a bit more because you can hinge/cock the wrists more. The club can load more and thus build more speed.

Palmy grips, blech.

[collapse]

1 hour ago, craps said:

For golfers who cannot swing that good because of athleticism, a strong grip with 2 knuckles showing and a right hand underneath so that palms facing each other couple with swinging out to 1 o'clock works the most. Mind you that this grip will show a closed face. You have to forward press to make it square at address.. In addition make sure your sternum has to be inline with the low point which is usually the 1/3 back part of the ball. Works beautiful for me. It might work for you!

Essentially for any technique to work,the lead/upper hand has to be turning over as it approaches impact but in a controlled manner so as not to hook the hell out of the ball nor hit enormous fat shots.

Edited November 27, 2015 by collapse

[JonMA1]

9 minutes ago, collapse said:

Essentially for any technique to work,the lead/upper hand has to be turning over as it approaches impact but in a controlled manner so as not to hook the hell out of the ball nor hit enormous fat shots.

How much do you feel as though you have to consciously turn your bottom hand over, as opposed to it happening "naturally" on its own? I realize this might be a stupid question.

[craps]

56 minutes ago, JonMA1 said:

How much do you feel as though you have to consciously turn your bottom hand over, as opposed to it happening "naturally" on its own? I realize this might be a stupid question.

Haven't you noticed that on this forum those instructors that are teaching golf do gave out sound facts BUT golf is more about execution. I know what a model swing is but can you execute? Why do Mr. Fuyrk swing like that? He has to go through those actions to get desirable results. I can imagine lessons with these guys would make you very mechanical. Some people just want to enjoy golf. Able to keep pace. Just Bogey golf. If you try to teach too difficult stuff, then it would be a struggle.

[dchoye]

1 hour ago, iacas said:

CF? Are we talking MORAD stuff?

Generally you can get more power by putting the club in the fingers a bit more because you can hinge/cock the wrists more. The club can load more and thus build more speed.

Palmy grips, blech.

I wasn't sold on the "palm grip" that Nicklaus advocates when I started playing, but its starting to grow on me.

CF momentum is in all swings right?  Some can generate more speed from CF than others.

I dont fully understand Mac's description of CF swing. 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, JonMA1 said:

How much do you feel as though you have to consciously turn your bottom hand over, as opposed to it happening "naturally" on its own? I realize this might be a stupid question.

not a stupid question.

I used to have my right hand turn over so much that my hands oppose to much.

Now I feel its more strong/strong appearance than strong/weak appearance.

I feel my top/lead hand turning over a fraction before my bottom hand.

Don't waggle as much. I tend to hinge my wrist or bend my elbows as preshot routine.

I think this keeps my palms more parallel.

However, there are trouble shots around the 100 yard mark I like to waggle and get my hands opposing but I feel more confident when I switch to ten fingers specifically for those shots,

otherwise I'm interlocking for regular ones.

Edited November 27, 2015 by dchoye

[collapse]

4 hours ago, JonMA1 said:

How much do you feel as though you have to consciously turn your bottom hand over, as opposed to it happening "naturally" on its own? I realize this might be a stupid question.

IMO the lead hand turns over naturally when the pre-set hinge and cocking position are correct.This turning over has to be controlled however and I believe is typically done with the lower hand.If you take Bubba and Freddy with their super strong lead hand grip,you see them with an open stance and top hand small finger  purposely placed under the club grip which helps control the lead wrist which wants to cup out of control at the top and not return to square. 

[collapse]

[iacas]

4 hours ago, craps said:

I can imagine lessons with these guys would make you very mechanical. Some people just want to enjoy golf.

You imagine incorrectly then. Simple as that. If a golfer is taking lessons they want to play better, and on the Internet since feels aren't real, the only thing you can discuss with any level of accuracy are the mechanics. It is up to the golfer, or in the case of a lesson, the instructor to find the feels the produce the proper or improved mechanics.

Also, in my experience, virtually every student who has a proper grip doesn't have to worry at all about rolling the hands over or anything like that.