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I bet you have become good at not meeting your expectations.

Hahaha! Sorry... that was funny.

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a birdie at best, a par at worst...

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Expectation lying 100 yds: green + 2 putt (or up & down) = 3 strokes
Reality: 3.5 strokes

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My expectation: Make Par

It really depends on the distance, I would much rather have a 96 yard shot (easy, 3/4 PW) that I'm always died in to than to have a 50 yard shot, which is kind of a tweener for me.

In all reality, inside 100 yards, I'm looking to be within 15-20 feet and have a legit putt at a birdie.

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My expectation: Make Par

my thoughts exactly.. anytime I have a wedge up to a 9 in hand..i really expect myself to have a legit chance at bird... if I have anything like a 5 - 7 in hand.. I try to select a quadrant that I'll be happy with for a 2 putt par....

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100 yds with a wedge in my hand? Depending on the pin, of course, id think anything outside of 15 feet as a big dissapointment.
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In the fairway, inside 120 or so, I expect to be on the green, and in a reasonable position (e.g., not back-left if the pin is front-right). I stopped going for the pin with full shots last summer, and my scores have come down. Unless I've got a half-wedge from a good lie or better, I'm just looking to be in a reasonable position on the green.

This is going to sound crazy but ANYTHING in the fairway and inside 110 i expect to make.

This is the attitude I wish I had. I expect to jar my chips, and I do so more than some of my friends who are better chippers but are just looking to get it close.

I bet you have become good at not meeting your expectations.

Well, there's meeting your expectations and what you expect. I expect to make most of my putts. I don't. But there's a world of difference between being confident that I'll make a 35-footer and being disappointed when I don't. You aren't doing yourself any favors by expecting to miss once you're over the ball.

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Interesting. I like the idea of a quantitative measure of one's expectations.

the idea comes from an article I read in a golf magazine last year, and using percentages, i believe it holds true, because the closer you get, the small the "sucess target is"

If you think that when you have a 6% margin of error, a 4.25" cup gives you a makeable putt up until about 6', that means you should be sinking 6' and shorter putts every time. However, when you have a 30' putt, and you leave it within 2', that is the same 6%. This means being 30' away is an easy 2 putt. It helps to manage your misses, because if you can hit the ball within a 10% variance, it will help to determine your next shot. If I hit this shot a little fat, will I still make the fairway? If I go a little long of the green, what is the hazard that I will have to deal with. Also, when practicing, it helps to think back to all of the shots you had, and which ones were you outside of that 6% to 10% range, that is the area of your game you should focuse on practicing. Also, which area were you in the most often, that is your strong suit, so play to it.

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If I'm playing my home course where I know the greens I try to hit it inside 20 ft to the side of the hole the gives me the best putt.
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Anything inside 100 yards my goal is to get down in three. Getting down in two is a bonus, getting down in four or more is a big disappointment.

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100 yards in, at this point, I shoot for a 1 putt. That maybe a bit steep for my level but I don't care. It's forcing me to THINK about where I want the ball to go and what kind of shot I want to play. It's not going to do me any good thinking "Oh, I'll play it to two putt" and then later on as I get more consistent and better change to "Oh, I'll play it to within 5 feet". I just don't see it that way.

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On the green. I play to the green at my course. If I hit the middle of any green at my local course that will put me w/in 25 feet. I usually get to the green but not as consistent as I want for hittin the center. Once my game improves I will go for the stick, but for now I just go for the middle of the green.
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I expect to get down in 3 strokes.

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100 and in......dont short side........worst thing to do is miss on the short side and not get u and down

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thanks for all the replies guys kepp it up :)

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15 yards: if it's a simple chip I expect inside 3 feet, if it's a lob up to a small plateau I expect I need to find somewhere else to play

60 yards: down in 3, I've probably got a better chance running up a pw than lofting a sw if the path is clear

100 yards: it means I'm hitting a sw into the green so I expect I'll be slamming the sw into the turf

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100yds, expectation is within 10-15ft from the flag..I'm not even thinking about putting at that point yet...

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