Push Fade

[leezer99]

Can someone please give me some tips on how to stop hitting this damn push fade I've had for the last month now? Seriously, it's either a push fade or I shank it straight right and it's driving me nuts!

I'm desperate for any tips so help a guy out!

[saevel25]

Push, your swinging from the inside out, Slice your clubface is open to your swing plane.

Fix,

get a few dowels from the hardware store, and set up a gate infront of you about 7 yards, about a yard apart. you want to hit balls through this gate. Your attacking the ball from a good position, inside out, but you need to keep your left arm connected to your chest through the swing and let it naturally release through the club. This will square the club up for you. If you are finding your hooking the ball, then you are probably comming from way to far inside, thats when you need to start looking into video analysis of your swing plane, if you find your self hitting a nice draw after this fix, then have at the course ;b

[mchepp]

This is my big miss as well. I hate the push fade with such a passion that I would rather duck hook one out of bounds than hit a weak push fade. I hate playing from the right trees, also I find the push fade doesn't go as far either, so now I am in the right trees with a long way to go to the hole. I understand your frustration.

For me, it is has all to do with getting my hips forward enough. If I don't get the hips forward then I start to spin them out and either wipe the clubface across the ball with a very weak push fade, or if I throw the club out too far the dreaded shank. If I get the hips forward enough the push fade goes away.

Without seeing a video of your swing I cannot know if this will help you, but it helped me.

[saevel25]

I find that the issue happens to me mostly when my hands start to get further away from my body in the downswing and i flare my elbow out at impact instead of rotating it over through impact. i find if i keep my left arm connected to my chest, and i get to my left side that it squares up solid.

[leezer99]

Good stuff so far guys but can someone explain to me what "keep your arms connected to your chest" means? I'm not getting it visually.

[saevel25]

Well the Pro i went to described it as you are pulling your body through impact with your hips. So the hips fire first, then your midsection unwinds and your shoulders rotate. Your arms will be pulled through impact by the rotational force of your body. So i would say its like a baseball swing were you see the guys step into the pitch, unleash there hips and there shoulders clear as there arms lag behind.

I would say the feeling you might want to try to is to do a left shoulder stretch. put your arm straight out and bring it across your chest, then take your other arm and press it clower and pull to your right. That stretch in the shoulder and upper back is what the feeling is like when you have your arms being taken through impact by the body.

[BallStriker]

Good stuff so far guys but can someone explain to me what "keep your arms connected to your chest" means? I'm not getting it visually.

A very common drill to get the feeling of staying connected is to place a towel under your left armpit and take a few swings making sure the towel doesn't fall....that should give you the feeling.

[iacas]

A very common drill to get the feeling of staying connected is to place a towel under your left armpit and take a few swings making sure the towel doesn't fall....that should give you the feeling.

Or a coin or a tee. A towel or a large object like that can stay in sometimes too easily. But yeah, that drill.

[GaijinGolfer]

For the push, you could try doing practice swings with swinging your driver with your feet together. That will quiet your legs/hips and help you learn to not swing from the inside.

[live4u120]

I suffer from this very same problem. I've noticed if I try and come what feels like over the top in my down swing, I hit it very straight. Maybe you should try and just feel like you're hitting exaggerated over the top swings. Today actually I was battling this, it's always my weakness, and I would love to know why I do it. I think I'm spinning my hips out too.

[senorchipotle]

10 times out of 10, when i hit a push fade, my head drifts forward and/or my right shoulder dips too low on the downswing.

[leezer99]

Thanks gentlemen, I'll be sure to work on a few of these pointers this weekend. I think that I finally understand what being connected means!

[Phil McGleno]

10 times out of 10, when i hit a push fade, my head drifts forward and/or my right shoulder dips too low on the downswing.

You do know, of course, that your right shoulder is supposed to be quite low at impact, right? How low is "too low"? It's incredibly rare to actually be "too low."

[leezer99]

Spent about an hour on the range hitting mid irons today and things turned out pretty well. We'll see what happens on the course tomorrow as that's a totally different story but it makes sense now. I had to really fight myself in the beginning to keep my left arm from doing the chicken wing thing but towards the end it started to feel really good.

[PS90]

Hi guys,

I don't mean to hijack the thread, but I have the same problem as leezer - either a push or a slice or both at once. Usually my short irons end up in a push and the longer clubs (driver) go straight, but then slices.

I assume this means that I'm swinging in-to-out - which pushes the short iron shot - because the ball is further back in my stance, and then the further-forward ball position with the driver is past that "point of tangency" and I'm hitting it on the "coming back inside" part of the swing. And, all the while, my club face is too open. Does that sound right?

My question - isn't the in-to-out swing supposed to be a good thing? Or should I be coming more over the top? Or, should I be putting the ball more forward in my stance for ALL the clubs?

As for the club face-angle - I have no problem at all keeping a tee in my armpits - I've done that drill many times. But I think I have a serious open-face problem - and I can't turn my hands over enough even when I'm actively thinking about doing that. Any other tips?

Sorry for the infantile-level of my questions, but I need this stuff spelled out word for word in order for it to help me. Thanks very much.

[Mike Stig]

some of this will help me out aswell, thanks.

[AggieGolfer13]

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Originally Posted by iacas

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Or a coin or a tee. A towel or a large object like that can stay in sometimes too easily. But yeah, that drill.

I read an article with Adam Scott talking about doing this same drill but under the left arm.  When you looked at my video you said my backswing was too flat.  I feel like if I did the drill Scott talked about. It would only get worse.  What do you think?

[Mitcheman21]

I had this problem and thought it was my hips were spinning out but in reality unless your a serious athlete this won't happen :-D what I was doing is sliding them in the backswing and not rotating enough in the downswing, just another thought for you