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  1. 1. How many regular PGA Tour events and majors will Tiger win in 2011? Pick ONE from each set.

    • No Majors
      22
    • 1 Major
      38
    • 2 Majors
      16
    • 3 or 4 Majors
      3
    • 0 regular event wins
      8
    • 1-3 regular event wins
      33
    • 4-6 regular event wins
      20
    • 7+ regular event wins
      1

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I think Tiger dominates (perhaps not like 2000, but that's an awfully high bar) in 2011.

I think Sean Foley has some good knowledge. I think Tiger fixes his most glaring flaws. I think he works hard this off-season, shows an inkling of improvement at the Ryder Cup, and really, really pours it on through the middle and later in 2011.

I think 2011 is the rebirth of Tiger Woods and gets people excited about the chase for Jack's record once again.
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I'm going to agree with you. I meant to choose 2 majors (accidentally selected 3-4), and I think he will get at least 7 wins. In 2009 he got 6 wins while playing on a slightly bum knee and still privatizing a major chunk of his life, so I think he should better than in 2011. With a whole winter to work on everything I think he comes back revitalized and with a new zeal for winning.

A big chunk of his problem this year has been short putts, he just hasn't consistently been making them. Before he would go weeks (months) without missing a 5 footer, and could go whole tourneys without missing from inside 10 feet. I think a lack of confidence has lead to a lot of his struggles with the flat stick, and if he straightens himself off the tee and starts hitting the ball closer to the hole with his irons he will once again regain the short putting stroke. Once he fixes the long game woes, that is.
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I think Tiger is going to come back with a VENGEANCE in 2011. He hit absolutely rock bottom this year and despite the fact that been hitting the ball all over the earth he was still in 2 majors until the final day.
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The big factor on regular tour events is simply the number of times he plays. If the rumors of his divorce were true, I think he starts to play a few more events than what we've seen in the past few years. If that ends up being the case, then there's no telling how many he could win.

As far as the majors go, the Masters is what it is, and we know he's very capable of winning there. The US Open is at Congressional CC, and even though it will likely be set up different than what Tiger's own tournament normally is, he's won there before and is familiar with it as well. There's two majors that fall in his favor right there.

This past Saturday, one of the DirecTV channels was fixated on Tiger and Sean Foley working together. I thought there was quite a bit more interaction between the two than I ever saw Tiger have with Hank Haney. If he really buys into what Foley is teaching (whether it's officially announced or not), then I think the sky is the limit for him.

I actually have a feeling we see more than just an inkling of it at the Ryder Cup. When I heard about Rory McIroy's comments, the first thing that came to mind was the whole deal with Tiger and Stephen Ames a while back. We all know how that worked out. If Tiger ends up head to head with McIlroy, it should be very interesting to say the least.
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I think a lack of confidence has lead to a lot of his struggles with the flat stick, and if he straightens himself off the tee and starts hitting the ball closer to the hole with his irons he will once again regain the short putting stroke. Once he fixes the long game woes, that is.

MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY! It seemed like that's exactly what was going on this past weekend. Early in his rounds, he was looking great with the putter, and that's also when he was hitting a number of great shots. I also seem to remember the few fairways he did find were coming earlier in his rounds. I could be wrong about that one though...

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I went with 1-3 regular wins, no majors. The reason is twofold. First, there are far more potential candidates to win majors now than ever before, including those who have already beat him in majors and young guns who don't seem to have the fear of Tiger that older players had/have. Second, regardless whether Tiger finds his full swing, I don't think he will ever have the putting prowess that he had earlier. It happens to them all: Hogan, Palmer, Miller, Watson, Couples. Once those 8 foot birdies putts stop falling, it takes its toll on the psyche.
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I chose 2 majors and 6 regular events. In particular, I think he will grab the first two majors (Masters, U.S. Open) and a handful of his regular events (Torrey Pines, the Memorial, and Bridgestone among them). And we get back the Tiger we were promised in the Sam Jackson commercial back in Feb09. And just to prove he's back, he'll contend at Sawgrass and Quail Hollow, where he didn't play so well this year.
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I think he is in contention a lot and win a major, but everything will be close. It will never be the same, but others will not be as consistent as him still. Hoping for the young guns to push him aside in the media, but never gonna happen unless maybe if fowler had a sex tape or something.lol
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I went with 1-3 regular wins, no majors. The reason is twofold. First, there are far more potential candidates to win majors now than ever before, including those who have already beat him in majors and young guns who don't seem to have the fear of Tiger that older players had/have. Second, regardless whether Tiger finds his full swing, I don't think he will ever have the putting prowess that he had earlier. It happens to them all: Hogan, Palmer, Miller, Watson, Couples. Once those 8 foot birdies putts stop falling, it takes its toll on the psyche.

Basically all of this.He's nervy with the putter.I think he'll get it going now and again and win the odd tournament, but I don't think he'll ever be consistent enough to dominate like he has again.Plus it's that 'T Factor'.. that effect he had on opposing players.It's completely and utterly gone.I'm sure players still respect him and his talent but I don't think they fear him any longer.He may well win more Majors in the future, but I don't think it'll be next year.
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After Tiger won the 1997 Masters, he went through a ten major-championship drought before winning the 11th. After Tiger won the 2002 U.S. Open, he went through a ten major-championship drought before winning the 11th. Noting that he missed two majors while recovering from knee surgery, Tiger has played in eight majors without a victory. Following past trends, his next major will come at next year's Open Championship.

Bottom line: Tiger will run hot and cold during the early months of 2011, as he works to groove a new swing with Foley. The results start to come to him in late spring, and he picks up his first win at the Memorial Tournament. He'll win the Open, and one more tournament later in the year, for a 2011 tally of three victories, one major.
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Reminds me of this Onion article:

That article was perfect. Well played, sir.

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I think Tiger dominates (perhaps not like 2000, but that's an awfully high bar) in 2011.

Good question. At this point I think Mr Woods needs take a bunch of time off; go and bond with his kids and get his personal life ironed out and in order. Until that happens he will just be "going thru the moves". Watching him now is almost as pathetic as watching an old athlete who needs to retire, but won't. So, in my mind, until he deals with this I really don't expect much to change. I also don't see him adding anything the the Ryder team, but thats another thread.

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I think he will retire, give away all his money and join a religious order based in Las Vegas devoted to helping people who have problems with their chastity and immodesty.
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Tiger is going to win, but he will never have the same intimidation factor with the newer players like he did with the Love, Els, Mickelson, and the rest of the folding lawn chairs. Tiger and Jack were handed alot of wins through intimidation. These new kids could care less about Tiger's aura. I almost pizzed myself laughing many times watching some of the players waiting on the first tee in the final round...... in the last group with Tiger . They had that look on thier faces that Tiger was the executioner and getting ready to walk them to the gallows.
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No majors. At least one tour win, though.
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I put double zeroes on the board. The other players are frothing at the mouth and don't give a care in the world where he's at in the pairings. He doesn't intimidate anyone on the golf course anymore. About the only thing certain is he will be a alot poorer in the pocketbook. Look for a double dip recession in his game when the sex tapes and doping talk gets ramped up. It will be spray and pray off the tee revisited. Maybe if we are lucky, the golf cameras will be showing the other players out there that are getting it done.
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