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[QUOTE=sean_miller;533730]Well you got all the buzzwords in there, the ben hogan swing (a little man who probably wouldn't have had a 300m driving average), athleticism, putting - oh wait, that's irrelevant - and there you go. A long driving shortish golf troll.

ok here is the deal. i post up footage of me nailing it 310 yards, and all you hecklers MUST change your signatures to "i love shooter" for 1 week..
deal????

also, i think if hogan had a modern driver he would have been a 300 yard drive average easily.

always give way to the Greenskeeper!!

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no, 2 x 20 minutes of putting practice during morning and lunch time breaks + 18 holes every day after work @ 2.00 pm apart from sunday because + athletic + swing simular to Ben Hogan = 310 meter avg + great golf.

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Well you got all the buzzwords in there, the ben hogan swing (a little man who probably wouldn't have had a 300m driving average), athleticism, putting - oh wait, that's irrelevant - and there you go. A long driving shortish golf troll.

No - 310 metres, and about 50 of them to prove you'd easily average that on a golf course. In the meantime, I'm getting a T-shirt made with

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ohhhh. you have changed your mind now have you???? 310 meters now,? ohhh sorry, obviously my mistake....

always give way to the Greenskeeper!!

in my bag:
whatever clubs i find left behind on the course... But the Ping Anser will never be beaten!!


BALL: only get off tractor for PRO v1's..... Now, which way to Q School???


When I played in SoCal i had an average drive around 300y (incl. roll of course), but when I moved back to Norway its way harder to get a long drive, mostly because of the climate and the gras, making it softer, and thereby less roll. The air is also colder and makes the carry shorter as well so I avg about 240m, or about 270y now..

Im 25 years old and 6-2 so my swing speed is pretty high right there...

I'm a 18.3 hcp, so the averages I mentioned is only from the drives that I manage to stay in bounds;p....

My Handicap: Hovers around 3-5
Avg Distance: 290+ yards

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this kid i saw play the other day, he's a 3 handicap, probably 12-14 years old, and it looked like he looked like he hits it about 240, thats on a course that had -5 inches of rain over the past 3 months, so its hard as hell. I would guess he gets 1.5-2.0x amount of normal roll. This one guy i play golf with hits a line drive golf ball, probably carries 180, but he ends up around 250-260 because he gets like 80-100 yards of roll, its sick.. Thank you dry summers in ohio ;b

But yea, distance versus handicap, over rated. Are we talking about a guy who hits 280 from the tips, or a guy who hits 210 from the whites. Come one, whats the specifics, how are we looking into detail on this. Because honestly, thats why we have different tee boxes. Of course a guy who hits 280 would have an advantage at the tips versus a 210 guy, thats nearly 70 yards per hole. Thats wedge versus nearly 5 irons, thats nuts, you can't ask someone to make up that difference in handicap.

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this kid i saw play the other day, he's a 3 handicap, probably 12-14 years old, and it looked like he looked like he hits it about 240, thats on a course that had -5 inches of rain over the past 3 months, so its hard as hell. I would guess he gets 1.5-2.0x amount of normal roll. This one guy i play golf with hits a line drive golf ball, probably carries 180, but he ends up around 250-260 because he gets like 80-100 yards of roll, its sick.. Thank you dry summers in ohio ;b

you guys don't play off the tips in handicap competitions?

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Handicap: I don't keep an official one, but I usually shoot in the upper 70's to mid 80's. Average in the awful rounds (90+) and I'm probably around a 12.

Driving average: I usually carry around 240-250 yards and roll to about 255-270 yards.
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you guys don't play off the tips in handicap competitions?

The only players in my Men's Club who play from the tips are the guys in the first or championship flight. The rest of us established our handicaps and play in tournaments from the middle tees.

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Depends upon what you define as a good swing. How about John Daly? Is that a good swing? Sure has good results as far as distance goes.

Dude... Are you friggin kidding me? Seriously? Does a two time major champion have a good swing? Seriously .

I am an 8 handicap and a 300y+ average. My longest from my last round was 351 measured with my SkyCaddie SGX.

Let the doubter posts begin, they don't bother me. I know how far I hit it

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I carry about 235 with the driver. Roll is far too dependent on conditions to be even worth guesstimating...... Index is 5.7 right now and it's dipped into the mid-4's.

Short and accurate with consistent ball striking and a decent short game is worth a heckuva lot more than distance off the tee, or anywhere else for that matter for most of us.

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I'm a 11ish handicapper, and i rarely drive farther than 230 yards. I'm 6'5" and a nice easy swing gets me 225 down the middle. If i swing hard, I can hit the ball a lot further, but accuracy suffers, and Id rather play 225 straight, than 275 all over. last round i played, i hit 12 out of 12 fairways with the driver, and 16 out of 18 greens. I just cant putt to save my life (left eye dominant, right handed)

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I am an 8 handicap and a 300y+ average. My longest from my last round was 351 measured with my SkyCaddie SGX.

Yeah, with an S flex shaft... You'd hit it off the face of the planet with such a weak shaft. Don't piss on my boots and tell me it's raining.

I'm a 11ish handicapper, and i rarely drive farther than 230 yards. I'm 6'5" and a nice easy swing gets me 225 down the middle. If i swing hard, I can hit the ball a lot further, but accuracy suffers, and Id rather play 225 straight, than 275 all over. last round i played, i hit 12 out of 12 fairways with the driver, and 16 out of 18 greens. I just cant putt to save my life (left eye dominant, right handed)

Yes, of course, most left eye dominant right handers are bad putters, like Jack Nicklaus. Come on man, don't be silly, your putting isn't why you're an 11 handicap, it's your ballstriking. If you're hitting greens, odds are you're playing to huge greens, because 16 of 18 greens in regulation is better than the best ballstrikers on the PGA tour.


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Yeah, with an S flex shaft... You'd hit it off the face of the planet with such a weak shaft. Don't piss on my boots and tell me it's raining.

You say a lot of things that seem to be what you believe but which may or may not actually be true. I can hit the ball pretty much as well with my X-flex driver as I can with my wife's Ladies flex driver.

Why do you get so wound up, SAM, in threads like this? Why do you care how far someone says they hit the ball? It'd be one thing if your advice was along the lines of trying to open their eyes to something so that they may improve, but you don't talk to people that way - you basically call them liars and try to rip on them.

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Yes, of course, most left eye dominant right handers are bad putters, like Jack Nicklaus. Come on man, don't be silly, your putting isn't why you're an 11 handicap, it's your ballstriking. If you're hitting greens, odds are you're playing to huge greens, because 16 of 18 greens in regulation is better than the best ballstrikers on the PGA tour.

no, my putting is why i'm an 11. I can routinely 3 putt from 10 feet. not bragging, because it sucks, i just have a horrible time lining up on anything close. I actually draw my hunting bow right handed, and shoot only with my left eye open - its that bad. my home course is not difficult, (in fact, its only about 5,000 yards from the whites), but dont call me a liar when you dont have any idea about my condition.

also keep in mind that i stated LAST round, not every round. It was an exceptional round. My entire point was that I'd rather swing at 75% and hit fairways, than swing at 110%, and hit the ball 50 yards further, but miss the fairway.

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odyssey 2 dot putter / taylormade penta tp, prov1, callaway hx tour (have a few boxes of each from the past couple seasons)


no, my putting is why i'm an 11. I can routinely 3 putt from 10 feet. not bragging, because it sucks, i just have a horrible time lining up on anything close. I actually draw my hunting bow right handed, and shoot only with my left eye open - its that bad.

Have you tried using an intermediate target? With it, you can aim 1 foot in front of the ball, instead of 100 yards, or 10 feet down the line.

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