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jamo Incredible Member

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Originally Posted by iacas

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Originally Posted by mtsalmela80

Please explain how the PGA managed to stay in business and pay their winners millions pre 1996....

I guess it was those hard core golf fans!

Let's assume you meant the PGA Tour...

And guess what? They didn't make anywhere near as much money back then. They paid the winners less, the TV people paid less, advertisers paid less... They "stayed in business" because the business cost - and made - 10x (or whatever) less money before Tiger Woods (despite Greg Norman, Nicklaus, etc.).


They also didn't used to donate as much to charity as they do now.

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MSchott Great Member

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Originally Posted by sean_miller

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In the context of TV ratings in the US, soccer is a poor stepchild.

Golf is the homeless guy on the corner compared to American Idol. Who cares?


That's not the point and you know it. If golf in the US drew soccer like ratings sponsorship would dry up and the Tour would be in big trouble. The point of this entire subthread is the PGA tour would be in trouble if only hardcore fans watched on TV. The advent of Tiger Woods has been huge for the game. This is proven by the size of the viewership, the huge purses and the worldwide interest. Why do you think Tiger is playing in the Middle East this week? They are paying him huge money to be there.

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mtsalmela80 Great Member

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Originally Posted by MSchott

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Originally Posted by sean_miller

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Originally Posted by MSchott

In the context of TV ratings in the US, soccer is a poor stepchild.

Golf is the homeless guy on the corner compared to American Idol. Who cares?

That's not the point and you know it. If golf in the US drew soccer like ratings sponsorship would dry up and the Tour would be in big trouble. The point of this entire subthread is the PGA tour would be in trouble if only hardcore fans watched on TV. The advent of Tiger Woods has been huge for the game. This is proven by the size of the viewership, the huge purses and the worldwide interest. Why do you think Tiger is playing in the Middle East this week? They are paying him huge money to be there.


Good lord what is going to happen when Tiger retires. The PGA is going to shut down and golf courses are going to start closing down worldwide by the thousands. Well I say we have ~30 or so years to play so enjoy it while it lasts!

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jamo Incredible Member

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You guys do realize that Tiger hasn't played in this tournament since 2002, right?

He also played in Dubai 2006-2008 (and would have in 2009 and 2010 had it not been for surgery/personal stuff). He played Dubai 3 times has won twice, and his worst finish was T3. Granted, Dubai and Pebble aren't usually on the same week, but I think it's no surprise that Tiger skipped Pebble.

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sean_miller Incredible Member

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I thought I already posted something similar, but it disappeared in processing. He never plays the old Pro Am events (The Crosy and The Hope). As long as Dustin Johnson is in the hunt on Sunday at Pebble Beach, people will watch. Assuming the weather cooperates.


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You guys do realize that Tiger hasn't played in this tournament since 2002, right?

He also played in Dubai 2006-2008 (and would have in 2009 and 2010 had it not been for surgery/personal stuff). He played Dubai 3 times has won twice, and his worst finish was T3. Granted, Dubai and Pebble aren't usually on the same week, but I think it's no surprise that Tiger skipped Pebble.



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topspin4hand Dedicated Member

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Originally Posted by Texian

The media likes front-runners, and a lot of them are too lazy to dig for better or different stories.


I think the media loves the underdogs and Tiger.  I saw a LOT of coverage on "two gloves."  I'd go as far as to say it was approaching disproportionate.

Re: Tiger's decision to play in the desert, for some it depends on whether you want to find another reason to bash the guy.  The more talented field is in that tourney yet an early post hinted that Tiger was heading over there to avoid Phil ... c'mon.  As a fan of the PGA Tour it's a little disappointing, but as a fan of golf generally, I'm loving the prospect of seeing the top 3 in the world in the same group for 36 holes ... hopefully it's televised.


Chris G Established Member

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the bulk of the best players in the world are playing in the desert this weekend, and people still moan and whine that Tiger isnt playing at Pebble Beach?

Didnt see all the moaning when Mickleson was out in the desert the other week when he didnt even play well, o and the 1 mill appearance fee what he got.

and where are all the people from who are moaning about Tiger playing in the desert....

I personally cant wait for the tournie to start tomorrow morning at 6am on Sky in the uk, i think it will be a great weekend, and then 8pm tomorrow night for the Pro-am on the PGA tour is going to finish it off nicely.

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Zeph Incredible Member

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Tiger playing with Westwood and Kaymer on thursday and friday, I'll be watching!

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Radford Wooly Well Established Member

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Originally Posted by Zeph

Tiger playing with Westwood and Kaymer on thursday and friday, I'll be watching!



Now that is a group to watch!! Go Tiger!!

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Chas Great Member

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Originally Posted by jamo

You guys do realize that Tiger hasn't played in this tournament since 2002, right?

He also played in Dubai 2006-2008 (and would have in 2009 and 2010 had it not been for surgery/personal stuff). He played Dubai 3 times has won twice, and his worst finish was T3. Granted, Dubai and Pebble aren't usually on the same week, but I think it's no surprise that Tiger skipped Pebble.


Well, err, no actually I didn't.  How come you didn't post this earlier and save all the wasted electrons.

Forget it, they'd only have been wasted somewhere else on the forum.


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Through one round:

Westwood: -3

Kaymer: -3

Woods: -1

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michaeljames92 Great Member

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Take a look at tiger's second shot on 18, then to hole the putt for eagle shows signs of the Tiger of old.

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Chris G Established Member

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Originally Posted by michaeljames92

Take a look at tiger's second shot on 18, then to hole the putt for eagle shows signs of the Tiger of old.



Amazing finish, you could see at the interview afterwards he had confidence to go out and score well tomorrow, GL to him hope he gives us another good round to watch,

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tsdnorton Well Established Member

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Originally Posted by basscat348

I dont want to see him at all anymore and im happy hes doing lousy .Its good to see some new blood in there like vegas,watson, and some others.With tiger out of the mix I can guarantee people will start watching golf again.



You MUST be out of your mind. Like honestly out of your mind. Tiger is the major reason that people watch golf NOW. There is a reason they have a BT and AT attached to golf termonolgy. (Before and After Tiger) He has changed this game forever. Longer courses, tougher courses, more workout involved... He single handedly put Nike on the map. This man is the reason that everyone watches golf.

You think with him OUT of the mix they will have MORE viewers?

You're COMPLETELY wrong.


mtsalmela80 Great Member

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Originally Posted by tsdnorton

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Originally Posted by basscat348

I dont want to see him at all anymore and im happy hes doing lousy .Its good to see some new blood in there like vegas,watson, and some others.With tiger out of the mix I can guarantee people will start watching golf again.

You MUST be out of your mind. Like honestly out of your mind. Tiger is the major reason that people watch golf NOW. There is a reason they have a BT and AT attached to golf termonolgy. (Before and After Tiger) He has changed this game forever. Longer courses, tougher courses, more workout involved... He single handedly put Nike on the map. This man is the reason that everyone watches golf.

You think with him OUT of the mix they will have MORE viewers?

You're COMPLETELY wrong.



Nike on the map? Jordan?

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Tugglife2 Well Established Member

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Originally Posted by Chris G

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Originally Posted by michaeljames92

Take a look at tiger's second shot on 18, then to hole the putt for eagle shows signs of the Tiger of old.

Amazing finish, you could see at the interview afterwards he had confidence to go out and score well tomorrow, GL to him hope he gives us another good round to watch,


And that he did.


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