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I read it somewhere to make the least backspin possible is to use the lowest loft driver head (for me is 9.5) and tee the ball higher, about 3/4 above the head.

I also noticed Long drivers contestant tees up the ball really high (I saw Jamie Sadlowski swing), about the whole ball over the head.

Thus by doing this, you'll get more roll from your driver.

Any feedback?

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They tee the ball high because they are using true lofted drivers of like 5.5* and 6.5* and they have to really hit it on the upswing.Manufacturers today know that most golfers have a hard time getting the ball airborne and putting spin on the ball (I dont) therefore the lofts printed on clubs nowdays are really like 1.5 - 2.5* higher than what they say.I just took back a so called 8.5* and when I had another place put it on there lie/loft machine it was 11*.

What kind of backspin #'s do you have ? Alot of the backpin problem occurs from an inproper shaft.

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Originally Posted by basscat348

They tee the ball high because they are using true lofted drivers of like 5.5* and 6.5* and they have to really hit it on the upswing.Manufacturers today know that most golfers have a hard time getting the ball airborne and putting spin on the ball (I dont) therefore the lofts printed on clubs nowdays are really like 1.5 - 2.5* higher than what they say.I just took back a so called 8.5* and when I had another place put it on there lie/loft machine it was 11*.

What kind of backspin #'s do you have ? Alot of the backpin problem occurs from an inproper shaft.

What driver do you have?  Your Real loft is 2.5* degree off.    It's just way too much.  Usually manufacture only adds 1 degree more from the stamped loft.

My backspin is allright around 3300 RPM for 140 Mph ball speed.   I just don't get much roll....
Long Drivers hit on the upswing because they want to create less backspin.   I think there is a lesson everywhere on the internet on hitting driver on the upswing because you want to create less backspin.   Hitting it down on the downswing will create more backspin....

Whats in my Golf Bag:
Driver: Nike Sumo 5000
5 Wood: Mizuno MP-001
Iron: Mizuno MX-950 5-PW
Wedge: Cobra FP 60 degrePutter: Odyssey 2-BallBall: Yellow balls

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The ball goes further through the air than on the ground.  A lot more factors at play than just clubhead loft.

Originally Posted by ronaldkuntoro

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Originally Posted by basscat348

They tee the ball high because they are using true lofted drivers of like 5.5* and 6.5* and they have to really hit it on the upswing.Manufacturers today know that most golfers have a hard time getting the ball airborne and putting spin on the ball (I dont) therefore the lofts printed on clubs nowdays are really like 1.5 - 2.5* higher than what they say.I just took back a so called 8.5* and when I had another place put it on there lie/loft machine it was 11*.

What kind of backspin #'s do you have ? Alot of the backpin problem occurs from an inproper shaft.

What driver do you have?  Your Real loft is 2.5* degree off.    It's just way too much.  Usually manufacture only adds 1 degree more from the stamped loft.

My backspin is allright around 3300 RPM for 140 Mph ball speed.   I just don't get much roll....




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Tee height is no guarantee of anything. Backspin is a result of ball softness, angle of attack and effective loft. The steeper you come into the ball, the more backspin will be created. A more shallow swing perhaps hitting the ball at a slightly positive angle will create less backspin. I would recommend going for a swing that hits the ball at -1 to +1 degrees AoA. The average on PGA Tour is -1 IIRC. Get on a launch monitor and try out different lofts and shafts. I'd rather groove the swing to achieve a good impact position than buying the loft that fit your current swing if there is something to work on there. The loft on the driver is static, no definitive indication of your dynamic loft at impact, where the shaft also makes a difference.

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Tee height just changes where on the face you hit the ball. Teeing it up higher makes it easier to hit it on the top of the face, which has a higher loft and will spin less. Teeing it up lower makes it easier to hit the ball on the bottom of the face, which has less loft and increases spin.

It's best to just find a tee height that makes it easy to hit it on the center of the face, and then adjust other things to change spin.

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Less spin is not always better. With a 140 mph ball speed, you need a decent amount of backspin to get and keep the ball up in the air.

And true lofts do routinely vary by 2 degrees or more. My last "10.5 degree" G15 head actually measured at 12.6 degrees.

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Originally Posted by Stretch

Less spin is not always better. With a 140 mph ball speed, you need a decent amount of backspin to get and keep the ball up in the air.

And true lofts do routinely vary by 2 degrees or more. My last "10.5 degree" G15 head actually measured at 12.6 degrees.


Those who have more than 1 degree off is a manufacturing defect (should have not passed QC).   Once I spoke with an Engineer from a golf manufacturer, true loft is intended to vary only 1 degree off from the stamped loft on the head.

Did I say I have enough spin?   It's around 3300 RPM.

Whats in my Golf Bag:
Driver: Nike Sumo 5000
5 Wood: Mizuno MP-001
Iron: Mizuno MX-950 5-PW
Wedge: Cobra FP 60 degrePutter: Odyssey 2-BallBall: Yellow balls

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Manufacturer.  Sorry, it's like the 8th time I've seen that word misspelled in the last 3 days.

Originally Posted by ronaldkuntoro

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Originally Posted by Stretch

Less spin is not always better. With a 140 mph ball speed, you need a decent amount of backspin to get and keep the ball up in the air.

And true lofts do routinely vary by 2 degrees or more. My last "10.5 degree" G15 head actually measured at 12.6 degrees.

Those who have more than 1 degree off is a manufacturing defect.   Once I spoke with an Engineer from a golf manufacture, true loft is intended to vary only 1 degree off from the stamped loft on the head.

Did I say I have enough spin?   It's around 3300 RPM.




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