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So i'm going hybrid shopping in about 2 weeks. Any ones in particular i should try and swing on the computer first. Any models would help narrow down how many i pull off the shelf at 1 time. Thanks

P.S. the most forgiving ones would be perfect

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I'm a 25.1 index and have a hard time with hybrids. I hate to say but, I have tried them all.

Recently, I got an Adams Tech V3 (reported to be the easiest to hit) and am having some luck. It feels amazing when you make contact! The ball just goes forever! Very satisfying! I have better luck in the rough than from the fairway???

The (regular flex) shaft feels a little "whippy" but that's about it.

Hope this helps!

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If you can find any TM Raylors, try them out. I have a 19º I got last fall, and it works great. Raylor is curious, because some say it's H while others say it's a FW. Anyway, it has a v-shaped "boat hull" sole which glides through the rough nicely.

I may get a Raylor 22º if I can find some. Golfsmith may have a few.

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Try all the Adams clubs that you can get ahold of, also try the Cleveland hybrids (Mashie and DST).


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I've tried a bunch of hybrids and the flat-out easiest to hit high and straight was the Adams A7OS.

Stretch.

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Originally Posted by ballemore1029

So i'm going hybrid shopping in about 2 weeks. Any ones in particular i should try and swing on the computer first. Any models would help narrow down how many i pull off the shelf at 1 time. Thanks

P.S. the most forgiving ones would be perfect



My general suggestion to people who are just starting, or generally high handicap, is Adams (A7) and Cobra.  I would also give the new Nike SQ Machspeed hybrid a try.

Also, if you're new to hybrids, consider both a square hybrid and a "traditional" one.  The square ones are supposed to be more forgiving in general, although established players sometimes can't get past the look at address - a problem you likely won't have!

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I've had a lot of hybrids......... before I ever bought another brand I would hit every Adams model I could find. The difference between A07 and everthing else I've had is huge. I have a 2 iron that I can hit frozen rope stingers off the tee with and hit it high and land it soft from the fairway. Since I put this club in my bag, I've since pulled the 3 wood because I hit it better, more consistant, and only a bit shorter (like maybe 5 yards) They make a design for whatever you're looking for, be it more like an iron or more forgiving (check out the boxer models)


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Mizuno JPX-800 and Cleveland Mashie would be 2 hybrids that I would definetly try.  Both are very forgiving, easy to hit hybrids.

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I recently bought a Ping G15 17° hybrid.  Very happy with the results, straight and long, very forgiving.


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Yesterday i was in Dick's and swung a burner 17 and burner HT 17, the burner HT has better numbers on the computer. My Dick's didn't have any Adams Hybrids. They said they were sold out, so that may be a good sign. Just curious but was is the difference between the Burner hybrids and woods and the Burner HT hybrids and woods?....Thanks for all the replies and suggestions

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Originally Posted by ballemore1029

Yesterday i was in Dick's and swung a burner 17 and burner HT 17, the burner HT has better numbers on the computer. My Dick's didn't have any Adams Hybrids. They said they were sold out, so that may be a good sign. Just curious but was is the difference between the Burner hybrids and woods and the Burner HT hybrids and woods?....Thanks for all the replies and suggestions

HT clubs are exclusive to Dicks and stands for High Trajectory, but the guy working there couldn't tell me how they achieve that (higher loft or lower kickpoint) than Burner clubs.

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Any Adams and Ping Gs (any vintage - 5s, 10s, 15s) are usually very forgiving and easy-to-hit clubs IMHO.  I have a complete set of Adams Tech V3s that are fantastic, but a 30 hcper might be better off looking at the over-sized models like the A7OS, I'd imagine.

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You really should give the callaway diablo edge hybrid a wack,you will be impressed. They are big which gives you the confidence to hit it when you approach the ball. Off center hits still go pretty straight,i would at least hit it and compare it to the taylormade to see how you like it.


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I just 3h Adams a7os. I like it when i can hit it. It's taking some time to figure it out though.

Originally Posted by Stretch

I've tried a bunch of hybrids and the flat-out easiest to hit high and straight was the Adams A7OS.




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Originally Posted by WUTiger

If you can find any TM Raylors, try them out. I have a 19º I got last fall, and it works great. Raylor is curious, because some say it's H while others say it's a FW. Anyway, it has a v-shaped "boat hull" sole which glides through the rough nicely.

I may get a Raylor 22º if I can find some. Golfsmith may have a few.


Some clubs are more woodlike, some more iron like.  I really feel my Fybrid plays much like 7woods I played years ago except the shaft is slightly shorter, it has a bit lower trajectory and is more workable.  I look at it like SUV's and my mazda 3 hatchback.  If they called them wagons especially a sports model like a two door Golf GTI then people are more resistant.  I love my Mazda 3 and my seven, excuse me fybrid.

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