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The Dan Plan - 10,000 Hours to Become a Pro Golfer (Dan McLaughlin)


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BTW, now that you are at least a year into your program, what's the update on official handicap? Shouldn't you have at least a yearly progress check? 

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Is Charlie who commented on the latest post on Dan's blog someone on here? Just rings a bell....

Charlie says:

As we’ve agreed all along, you’re just one data point in the testing of the 10,000-hours theory, but at least you’ve learned a lot along the way. I’ll bet if we took 50 people at the start, there would be many playing as well as you, many playing worse — including many because of injury — but even the ones better than you wouldn’t be close to being a low-level tour pro. 10,000 hours isn’t a sufficient condition for mastery; it’s merely a necessary one.

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Well, it doesn't sound dead, anyway. . .

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Two blog posts already in November means things are at least much better than they were previously in the information drought.

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Not to sound repetitive. But I strongly, vehemently, strenuously disagree with the statement in the last tweet: "5 months putting 6 hours a day".  What a way to suck the fun out of a game where the best part is getting the ball in the air.

Ah, I just saw your response @iacas right after I wrote this.

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5 months of putting probably fits right into a possible training routine for a training institute in Finland on the verge of a long cold winter indoors. . .

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3 hours ago, nevets88 said:

Not to sound repetitive. But I strongly, vehemently, strenuously disagree with the statement in the last tweet: "5 months putting 6 hours a day".  What a way to suck the fun out of a game where the best part is getting the ball in the air.

I couldn't agree more.

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47 minutes ago, Pretzel said:

I couldn't agree more.

Seriously,  Putting can be so boring and hell-a-frustrating.

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37 minutes ago, nevets88 said:

 

I believe the correct way of saying it would be, "I am the least qualified person to be here, because I have a habit of ignoring sane advice and I gave up for nearly 6 months before this because I wasn't progressing how I wanted to and it was becoming obvious."

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7 hours ago, nevets88 said:

 

"I'm the most differently qualified person to be here?"

I don't think he could be more of an asshat.

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Anyone here understand Finnish?

I ran the paragraph below through GT, it did an ok job, but I wonder what exactly the bit about 5 coaches is about.

Oppimisen ytimessä: Dan McLaughlin ja Jean Côté

At the heart of learning: Dan McLaughlin and Jean Côté

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- Yritin oppia yhtä swingin vaihetta viisi kuukautta erään valmentajan kanssa. Sitten kävin tapaamassa toista valmentajaa, joka katsoi lyöntejäni pitkään sanomatta sanaakaan. Viimein hän käski muuttaa yhtä pientä osaa asennossani ja näytti kädellään kuinka se tehdään. Oivalsin saman tien mistä oli kysymys. Kyse ei olut siitä että yksi koutsi olisi ollut toista parempi, mutta toisen kanssa kommunikoimme samalla kielellä.

- I tried to learn as the swing phase of five months with a coach. Then I went to meet another coach, who took shots for a long time without saying a word. Finally he told me to change one small part of asennossani and showed with his hand how it's done. I realized right away what was going on. It is the beer that one of the coach would have been better than the other, but with the other we communicate in the same language.

http://www.sport.fi/uutiset/uutinen/oppimisen-ytimessa-dan-mclaughlin-ja-jean-cote

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2 hours ago, nevets88 said:

Anyone here understand Finnish?

I ran the paragraph below through GT, it did an ok job, but I wonder what exactly the bit about 5 coaches is about.

 

He's saying that retrospectively thinking he would learn much more if he had 5 coaches and he could take the best of their advice and sort of blend it to his game and progress.

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1 hour ago, B-F-G said:

He's saying that retrospectively thinking he would learn much more if he had 5 coaches and he could take the best of their advice and sort of blend it to his game and progress.

Thanks. That sounds dangerous. Maybe it'll work if you take lessons from 5 instructors who teach "similarly", "in the same ballpark", yes, we know how much there is disagreement among instructors, but 5 who have similar backgrounds might be trying to fix the same piece in different ways. But you can get  conflicting information from 5 different guys. Dan Plan has hit on a perennial problem. How do you find a good pro? A question better suited for others with more experience and knowledge to answer.

If you get one guy telling you to only putt for 1/2 year and another guy saying that's poppycock, what do you do?

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