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I am a 2 handicap and I really have a great feel with my wedges and all my short game. Although I feel I am striking the ball great, I RARELY get a ball to spin back. I feel this would help improve my game immensely. If anyone has tips or drills to really spin the ball back it would help so much. Thanks!


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After listening to some pro's and IMO I don't think you will get as much "distance" out of being able to spin the ball back as you think. Everything I've read and heard about this sez that you have more control with roll out than spinning the ball back. A lot of pro's have said that they don't like the spin back b/c its too hard to control and the only reason it happens is cuz of their higher club head speeds, and as you know, they have some serious club head speed. I have enough club head speed that I can get the ball to take 2-3 hops and then sit down. Not my favorite shot cuz if I blow it the ball is over the green and its not as accurate for me as using roll out. I'm sure there are situations where this shot would be good, but those are usually few and far between.


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Why are you looking to generate spin back - what situations are you encountering where this would be a major benefit?  I play golf with quite few low HC players (

Knowing how to do it consistently and in the right situtations would be a good skill to have in the bag no doubt, but do you really need it?

Stand with feet closer than normal

Place ball closer to back foot

Use the highest loft club in the bag

Swing club on steeper plane (more upright)

Hit directly beneath the ball - take divot that is long and shallow after striking the ball first

Normal follow through

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As some have stated, it's not the easiest thing to control. Unfortunately, I spin everything. I am tall, with a very upright swing, and am what you would call a 'digger/driver'. Any full shot with a 9 iron or down will leave white cover in at least 3 grooves, which is hard on golf balls to say the least. A full SW will require that I aim 5-10' past the hole as it always comes back. But I'm never sure exactly how much. And forget a lob wedge... I often pull the ball back off the green if the pin is near the front. As others have said, it is nice to have sometimes, but not always. In my case, I'm not good enough to hit that 'dead hands' shot the pros do to kill the spin. I have a difficult time controlling distance when I try. I'd gladly give you some of mine if I could!

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What ball do you play?  Are you playing with old wedges that have lost their grooves?  Are the greens where you play overly soft?  All of these things will influence how much your ball will spin back, if any. If you are making good contact, yet not getting the ball to back up, it could be due to these factors.


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Spin should be thought of more like an after product of good contact.  However, the previous posters are completely correct and immense spin is not really a reliable way to control a shot.  I find that I suck the ball back off the green more often than I do towards the hole.  I'd much rather just pop the ball up and let it drop down and sit on the target.  There are only a couple of instances where I would use a low spinning shot to stop on the green and even then, I'd more than likely play it to roll out as it's much easier to judge.

However, if you want more spin, hit the ball harder.

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Originally Posted by Blades4me

After listening to some pro's and IMO I don't think you will get as much "distance" out of being able to spin the ball back as you think. Everything I've read and heard about this sez that you have more control with roll out than spinning the ball back. A lot of pro's have said that they don't like the spin back b/c its too hard to control and the only reason it happens is cuz of their higher club head speeds, and as you know, they have some serious club head speed. I have enough club head speed that I can get the ball to take 2-3 hops and then sit down. Not my favorite shot cuz if I blow it the ball is over the green and its not as accurate for me as using roll out. I'm sure there are situations where this shot would be good, but those are usually few and far between.



Not trying to drag the conversation off-topic, but that first sentence isnt exactly true. To get proper backspin, you should be hitting the ball first and then taking the divot. Any time you hit the ball first, diistance will be maximized, all other things being equal. What I'm getting at is that one of the big things that would negatively affect distance would be hitting it fat - not catching all ball (which is needed to get enough spin to suck it back. Hope that makes sense.

 
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Originally Posted by Randy Looney

I tend to play  Pro-Vs and I have Vokey '09 weges 60* and 54* they both in great condition. I also play on very soft greens.



Here in Florida, we have the same thing. On real soft greens, the ball tends to make a very deep ball mark, right?  All the potential spin is "absorbed" by the sand/dirt, so I get no more than a couple of feet of spin, even on crisply struck wedges, which is fine by me.  Where you see the real spinning wedge shots is on firm greens where the ball takes one hop, then spins back.


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I love in Florida as well, Tallahasse Where it is extremely hot and humid, keeping the greens like that. That is probably a big reason I am not getting spin.


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1.) Use a quality wedge with sharp grooves

2.) Use a ball with a urethane cover

3.) Play the ball back in your stance

4.) Hit the ball, then the turf

Spinning the ball back is actually really easy and highly overrated.  Id rathar the ball take 1 hop and stop than to spin back 10 feet.  As others have said, predicting just how far the ball will spin back can be difficult and its even more difficult to match your distance to the amount of spin.  Again, its much easier when the ball just takes 1 or 2 hops and stops dead.

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Hit the ball first. Hit the ball first. Hit the ball first.

Being in Florida, if you're hitting the ball first and firmly, and using decent equipment (which you are), the issue should be CONTROLLING spin, not getting it.

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Originally Posted by ohiolefty

Hit the ball first. Hit the ball first. Hit the ball first.

Unless you are hitting out of a sand trap - where you can still create monstrous spin without ever - technically - hitting the ball.

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I have noticed that tour pros these days don't seem to try and spin the back, unless there is a backstop and the pin is up front, or there is trouble behind the green and the pin is on a different level and the must carry the ball all the way there. Years ago when all of the soft cover high spin balls were coming out I think it became the cool thing to do for a time. It seems control and predictability have regained the lead these days.

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