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  1. 1. Where do you waste the most shots?

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Easy for me - putting. I'm relatively solid from tee to green. I hit about 60% fairways and close to the same in greens. My struggles come from the inability to make the 5 to 20 footers.

The sad thing is that the more I practice and work on putting, the worse I seem to get. I tend to overthink and focus too hard on my stroke rather than clearing my head and making an effortless stroke. I'm working this year more on my putting routine rather than the putting stroke itself.

Fairways and Greens.

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Easy for me - putting. I'm relatively solid from tee to green. I hit about 60% fairways and close to the same in greens. My struggles come from the inability to make the 5 to 20 footers.

No doubt you'll go back and re-read the Rotella book(s). The Brad Faxon examples in there are good, and I try to follow those. My putting pace has been pretty good ever since I stopped thinking about pace entirely. You really just have to trust your body to get the pace right.

I'm super-careful about my line, but I don't obsess over it either. I just make sure I line up my ball and put my putter on that line. Then I putt to the picture and with the same stroke I had behind and beside the ball (I do both pre-putt).

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i would say it's chipping...gotta be when you miss the green.

for high handicappers ya i could see it being tee shots, but generally even if you were a high handicapper and rolled it to the green in 3-4 shots...you then chip and get down in 1 putt, that would be a double bogey. surely he'd have a good number of holes where he'd get by the green in 2 or 3 shots. from there if he could chip and 1 putt, he'd make par or bogey. bet you my life he doesn't do that...instead he chips, chips again, maybe once more for good measure, then 3 putts. They then somehow think their tee shots were to blame. I see it all the time, and it even happens to me! It's true the drive I hit in the left rough didn't let me get in position to attack the pin...but hit it as best I can and get up and down...if i don't....i wasted my chip! best players in world only hit 75% of greens anywho...so if i hit high 60s...i'm playing well!

all about the greenside game baby!

wow, i have a lot of passion for this stuff haha.
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i would say it's chipping...gotta be when you miss the green.

+1 Chipping has to be it. Up and down is a huge part for me to have a good score. My logic is chip it with 10-15 ft and make half those putts you are going to be ok for a hacker like me. I worked hard on my short game this winter and it has already paid off with saving my butt when other parts of my game less than stellar. Off the tee to me is more of a game management issue. If I'm ( or any other hacker ) is thinking correctly the tee game can me kept in check by using iron s/hybrids/3 wood off off the tee.

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In my head!! Bad course management and frustration are my two biggest "Round Killers". I'll be having a great round and then try to carry my drive 310 over water to cut the corner on a dog leg, or go for a par 5 out of the rough. It seems like a good idea until I write that 8 down on my card. Then the frustration carries over to the next tee shot. Any advice on this anyone??

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5 Wd SQ X stiff steel
3-PW RAC LT X stiff 52 dg RAC TP Satin56 dg RAC TP Satin60 dg Vokey Oil CanPutter Cameron Studio Newport


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In my head!! Bad course management and frustration are my two biggest "Round Killers". I'll be having a great round and then try to carry my drive 310 over water to cut the corner on a dog leg, or go for a par 5 out of the rough. It seems like a good idea until I write that 8 down on my card. Then the frustration carries over to the next tee shot. Any advice on this anyone??

Hit the shot you know you can hit.

Don't hit the shot you think a pro would hit. Don't even hit the shot you think you should be able to hit. Conservative strategy, cocky swing. I got that from " Golf Isn't A Game Of Perfect " by Bob Rotella.

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I have problem with the long approach. Now I'm playing from the blue tees so I have to put those shots on the green, but sometimes I'm short or long. My short game is good so I can en with a bogey, but I need to practice those long approches (do you write it like that: "approaches").

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Definately my driver, but hopefully that's about to change. I'm starting to gain control of it at the range so now I need to translate that to the course.

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I usually make it to the green smoothly. Then three or four putt. Very bad. Hopefuelly my belly putter will make things better.

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Mine is reading greens. I just don't read the greens correctly, there are rounds where I do, but on those that looks like should break, don't and those that look straight, do. It's drives my nuts. lol

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Short game......Short game.......Short game........ That just kills me. Never leave myself a short
one putt.

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Pitching and putting. I left out chipping because my chipping is actually quite good. But I can't hole a putt to save my life (I even missed a four foot, straight, level putt for birdie the other day).
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Fairway woods: Howson tour master power series 3,5 woods
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I would have to say that anyone under a 10 handicap is all mental, because to get to the point they are at they can already execute the shots, but shot choice and mental toughness is what sets apart scratch and 10.

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putting, was a good putter and something happened...ugh...case of the yips......

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Irons 2-pw mp-32 s300

fairway wood big bertha fusion 3+ 13* aldila nvs 55-sDriver 440sz 7.5* gs-6 s-flexwedge 56* SI beryllium wedge 52* MP seriesball hx tourputter hummmm


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I waste the most shots in two places:

trying to hit a stupid shot- say a huge hook from under a tree to a green with a 190-200 yard carry over water.

1-2 drives per round can go OB. I've had rounds with 11 FIRs and 2 OB tee shots!

Driver- Geek Dot Com This! 12 degree Matrix Ozik Xcon 6 Stiff
Adams Tour Issue 4350 Dual Can Matrix Ozik Xcon 5

Hybrids- Srixon 18 deg
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I answered 'mental/course management'.

I have an all around solid game, in that I'm capable of parring any hole I play, however when I miss shots, they can mainly be attributed to the mind.

Getting lazy with my alignment causing me hit a "perfect" tee shot "right" into the scrub. (I hate it when, after one of these shots, my buddies say I hit it right where I was aimed). I know how to align myself...anything but spot on is a mental lapse IMO.

Hitting a nice chip to my landing target but not accounting for the fact that the green runs slightly away from me causing the ball to run 8 feet past.

Hitting an online approach only to realize that subtle wind really is up there and it's blowing in the opposite direction.

Problems like these are not due to mechanics...they're mental lapses (brain farts).

Driver: R7 SuperQuad TP 9.5° Fujikura Rombax 6X07
Hybrid: Rescue TP 19°

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I waste most of my thru the mental game/golf management. I suffer from the problem that I too often make a mental mistake and then when I try to account for everything properly, I start to over-think.



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