Thinking about blades

[Kieran123]

Originally Posted by sean_miller

Pfft - the G20s will players' cavity backs compared to these.

I will have nightmares about these

I picture an old rusty snow shovel, cut down with some electrical tape wrapped around the handle.

I hear the twang as ball meets face....there is no loss of distance for hitting the ball on the toe, it all goes equally as far. A full swing rewards you with 15 yards.

[The Tin Man]

What your looking for is a set of Rat Clubs. The Salvation Army Golf Emporium probably has them, if not, a bath in salt water followed by spray paint works wonders.  After spray painting you set them on fire!  (A little battery acid wouldn't hurt.)

PS: I have never seen a set of rat golf clubs, Cars, and bikes...but never clubs. There's a class for rats at Harley shows.

AMF Harleys.....AMF Hogans!   Thanks for the idea.

Originally Posted by sean_miller The second set would be as fugly as they needed to be in order to get the ball exactly where I wanted it after every stroke. They'd likely be gawdawful things aesthetically.  My old SM carry bag wouldn't even be able to contain the ginormous clubheads and my new staff bag (on a cart) would have the raincover (which would never come off in order to protect innocent bystanders from seeing their grotesque form in the light of day) bulging to near bursting in order to cover them all up. I'd list a few examples, but these babies aren't even on the market yet.

[ERdiesel]

Originally Posted by clubchamp

Man I can imagine the feeling of someone playing a CB gets when they hit it closer than someone playing a blades. A serious golfer plays to shoot the lowest score they possibly can on every hole. They don't play clubs to have a feeling of being good or possibly sacrifice strokes just to be playing a certain type of club.

You seemed to have missed my points:

1)  Being able to hit a great shot with a much more difficult club to hit with is a lot more satisfying than hitting the same great shot with a much easier club to hit with. That's just human nature.

2)  A big part of golf is confidence, and for a lot of us, the equipment we play plays a big role in instilling that confidence............i personally like addressing a ball with a blade with a thin topline and little to no offset versus a thick topline and a ton of offset. The blade just feels better in my hands and that "better feeling" helps instill more confidence.

The bottom line is use what you want to use and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

[ggolokin]

reading further through this it has led me to believe it is all a matter of opinion

...to each their own.

[x129]

1) Blades make the shot easier. That is why pros use them.  If you have 100k riding on a shot, you use what gets the job done most effectively. There is something about beating a player who thinks they are good enough to use pro gear when it turns don't have the game for it.

But feel free to use whatever you want. There are guys out there playing with hickory shafts that make your blades look like super game improvement irons. As long as they have fun who cares.

Originally Posted by ERdiesel

You seemed to have missed my points:

1)  Being able to hit a great shot with a much more difficult club to hit with is a lot more satisfying than hitting the same great shot with a much easier club to hit with. That's just human nature.

2)  A big part of golf is confidence, and for a lot of us, the equipment we play plays a big role in instilling that confidence............i personally like addressing a ball with a blade with a thin topline and little to no offset versus a thick topline and a ton of offset. The blade just feels better in my hands and that "better feeling" helps instill more confidence.

The bottom line is use what you want to use and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

[Mr. Desmond]

I think blades give you a more accurate shot when flushed over a CB.

CB's are less punishing on less than flushed shots.

I played the original Nike Combos - loved the blades in 8-PW. I also played Miura 201s - a blade disgused as a CB - lol. Those were surgical instruments!

I don't play as much as I once did -- so I now play GI irons -- it's fun. But still, blades in the higher irons ... nice idea.

[jamo]

I think blades give you a more accurate shot when flushed over a CB.

CB's are less punishing on less than flushed shots.

I played the original Nike Combos - loved the blades in 8-PW. I also played Miura 201s - a blade disgused as a CB - lol. Those were surgical instruments!

I don't play as much as I once did -- so I now play GI irons -- it's fun. But still, blades in the higher irons ... nice idea.

It's been proven that blades go farther and have a tighter dispersion on flushed shots, yes.

[Gresh24]

Originally Posted by jamo

It's been proven that blades go farther and have a tighter dispersion on flushed shots, yes.

Not disagreeing with you, but where/how was this proven?  Do you have a link to a study/results?  How much farther?

Sorry, if this is common sense.  I didn't know.

[jamo]

Not disagreeing with you, but where/how was this proven?  Do you have a link to a study/results?  How much farther?

Sorry, if this is common sense.  I didn't know.

I've seen studies where they have an Iron Byron-type machine hit balls on around the face of blades and cavity backs at the same swing speed and they measured the results. I've seen things like this a few times, but I don't remember specific links. I'll try to find it. EDIT: Here's one link: http://www.oobgolf.com/content/the+wedge+guy/golf+equipment/5-2032-Blades_Versus_Cavity_Backs_A_Golf_Club_Epiphany.html I wish I could find one that at least has some more numbers. I'll keep looking.

[Dr_Fu_Manchu]

Originally Posted by jamo

I've seen studies where they have an Iron Byron-type machine hit balls on around the face of blades and cavity backs at the same swing speed and they measured the results. I've seen things like this a few times, but I don't remember specific links. I'll try to find it.

EDIT: Here's one link: http://www.oobgolf.com/content/the+wedge+guy/golf+equipment/5-2032-Blades_Versus_Cavity_Backs_A_Golf_Club_Epiphany.html

I wish I could find one that at least has some more numbers. I'll keep looking.

http://3jack.blogspot.com/2010/02/blades-vs-game-improvement-irons.html

[sean_miller]

I haven't seen anything recent. Do they still even use the iron Byron? In all the recent OEM adverts I've seen, it's player opinions (feel and perception) and trackman data.

[Gresh24]

Originally Posted by Dr_Fu_Manchu

http://3jack.blogspot.com/2010/02/blades-vs-game-improvement-irons.html

I appreciate the responses and links, but this one is from 1988.  Seems like GI and SGI irons have come a long way since then, as I'm sure blades have too.

I'm surprised there aren't more current data/tests on this.  I'd be really interested in the comparison of today's GI's vs. blades.

[GaijinGolfer]

[Gresh24]

Good videos TitleistWI.

[GaijinGolfer]

Originally Posted by Gresh24

Good videos TitleistWI.

Thanks.  That guy puts up a lot of good videos and he is really good about being brutally honest about blades.  He makes it very clear that anyone who is considering blades needs to realize that they dont offer much help, so your swing has to be very good and you need to know what youre doing.  He's also good about making it clear that no one NEEDS blades and that you can work the ball with just about any kind of iron.

[Slowswing]

I say hit whatever you perform best with. I think that 90% of the people that play blades would shoot better with a GI iron.  I work at a golf course and see a lot of people using blades that would be better off with something more forgiving.

[turnergeorge7]

I remember as a kid, we had an eccentric coach and he had his own style of teaching golf. He would give us a grass hook to cut grass of his lawn. At first I didn’t get the point, but later on I realized its benefits. The swing of grass hook is similar to the swing of golf club. This helped us improve our swing on the golf club. The grass hook was something like this:

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by turnergeorge7

I remember as a kid, we had an eccentric coach and he had his own style of teaching golf. He would give us a grass hook to cut grass of his lawn. At first I didn’t get the point, but later on I realized its benefits. The swing of grass hook is similar to the swing of golf club. This helped us improve our swing on the golf club. The grass hook was something like this:

We used to call those "grass whips". I used one for part of almost every day while working at the Rimbey Golf Club during a couple summers. They're awesome. I posted some comments (and links) somewhere on here last year.