Is yelling "FORE" enough?

[Mr3Wiggle]

  bplewis24 said:

Originally Posted by bplewis24

I can't think of much worse that could happen to a father than to inadvertently cause the death of his own son.

Brandon

This thread certainly took a dark turn.

[Alan Conroy]

  bplewis24 said:

Originally Posted by bplewis24

I can't think of much worse that could happen to a father than to inadvertently cause the death of his own son.

Brandon

OK can the doomsday monks get off this thread.

Bloody hell, the father would never forgive himself but it doesn't make him responsible.

[rustyredcab]

  Alan Conroy said:

Originally Posted by Alan Conroy

OK can the doomsday monks get off this thread.

Bloody hell, the father would never forgive himself but it doesn't make him responsible.

It actually does make him responsible. That is the point of the thread. We are responsible when we hit the ball and we do need to take that responsibility seriously.

All sarcasm aside, the OP points out how fast a slightly bad decision can become a really bad decision.

"FORE" is not enough.

[Alan Conroy]

  rustyredcab said:

Originally Posted by rustyredcab

It actually does make him responsible. That is the point of the thread. We are responsible when we hit the ball and we do need to take that responsibility seriously.

I bet you would be a barrel of laughs at the funeral. The poor guy feels bad enough without you telling him he was responsible. I'll tell you what...

I cut him wide open and you can pour a couple of pounds of salt into his wound.

[camper6]

  Mr3Wiggle said:

Originally Posted by Mr3Wiggle

Regardless of how idiotic it is to hang out in front of a tee box while people are teeing off, in a court of law (at least here in Maryland) you are liable if you hit that person with your golf ball and cause injury.

And in other legal cases guys that wander out on to a fairway and are hit by a ball are responsible for their own injury.

Golf courses are funny places when it comes to the law.

[Alan Conroy]

  camper6 said:

Originally Posted by camper6

And in other legal cases guys that wander out on to a fairway and are hit by a ball are responsible for their own injury.

Golf courses are funny places when it comes to the law.

I agree. I don't think there is another sport where the laws are broken more often. Grown adults have trouble differentiating between a five and a six, whether an old divot mark was created by a burrowing animal or whether checking the ball's identity allows you to improve your lie.

[camper6]

Spectators at a golf tournament assume the risk of watching the tournament and lining up in front of a pro in a tunnel.

Here is a summary of the law in New Jersey from a legal firm.

The liability is not cut and dry making the person hitting the ball liable automatically as some think. Yelling FORE is not enough or not yelling FORE is not necessarily accepting blame.

http://www.rossettidevoto.com/Articles/Golf.htm

[Alan Conroy]

  camper6 said:

Originally Posted by camper6

Spectators at a golf tournament assume the risk of watching the tournament and lining up in front of a pro in a tunnel.

Here is a summary of the law in New Jersey from a legal firm.

The liability is not cut and dry making the person hitting the ball liable automatically as some think. Yelling FORE is not enough or not yelling FORE is not necessarily accepting blame.

http://www.rossettidevoto.com/Articles/Golf.htm

I would love to read this article and make a comment on it. I'm going to bed and will attempt to read it tomorrow. Good night for now.

[5ironkid]

first of all wtf is wrong with you. from your perspective it seems like if anyone gets hit with a golf ball its their fault! the way you let a guy go out 30 yards to retrieve a ball while your hitting is extremely stupid. then you start saying that the father shouldve gone out with someone else other than his son. he never ment to hit his son and killing your own son would destroy your life. then your attitude is incredibly abnoxious. you dismiss everything everyone says and then when you described the man being unconcious for 5 minutes hitting him in the side of the head, and nothing happening is astounding. the side of the head is the most vulnerable spots on a person. the golf ball is the size of the temple. if someone punches hard enough on the side of the head, the person can die. hitting a golf ball at an excess of 90 mph into the side of someones head can easilly cause permanent damage or death. then you joke about a crippling injury which leaves the person wheelchair bound with brain damage. second of all the one thing when being taught or learing about golf is safety.  A PERSON IS TO NEVER HIT UP ON ANOTHER PERSON! the fact you completely disregarded this rule is incredible. you say there was a hill protecting him. that makes it even more dangerouse because you have no idea where he is or what he is doing. then you say you wanted to hit a third ball because it went into the water. later on in a post you talk about how he was disqualified for slow play. when you hit into a trap just drop near the water and you skip 5 minutes hitting, watching and looking for your ball. i am 15 and i know never to hit up on people, or hit without knowing where everyone is or how far away they are. the fact you did this astounds me and the way you talk to some of the people here about a serious thing is unneceptable in my eye. i am done with my rant

[bplewis24]

  Mr3Wiggle said:

Originally Posted by Mr3Wiggle

This thread certainly took a dark turn.

I'm sorry, what did you think the thread was about?  The entire first post was a story about a person nearly killing his golfing partner because of a hasty decision.  If people don't learn a lesson from reading some of the posts in this thread then they, like Alan, don't get the point.

Brandon

[camper6]

  bplewis24 said:

Originally Posted by bplewis24

I'm sorry, what did you think the thread was about?  The entire first post was a story about a person nearly killing his golfing partner because of a hasty decision.  If people don't learn a lesson from reading some of the posts in this thread then they, like Alan, don't get the point.

Brandon

The 'hasty' decision was made by the golfer who decided to chase his ball before everyone had finished teeing off.  That's not the 'normal' way to play golf.

He put himself in danger voluntarily.  And then popped up without warning?  Should everyone have waited until the golfer who was more interested in his ball than his safety showed up?   I can see if he ran down the fairway and was visible that the golfers on the tee should wait but when he is out of sight and aware of the golfers still teeing off?

[cliffj]

To this day I still follow the same rule I followed when I first started golf and was extremely erratic (moreso than now).  I will not hit unless everyone in my group is behind me ( or safely protected and paying attention).   If I am with strangers or an outing, etc. and someone zooms past me to their ball and then looks back waiting for me to hit, I motion them back.  A few have gotten upset but I simply tell them I have no intention of sitting at their funeral being stared at by the family and lawyers.  I have seen too many people hit, etc. to take this lightly.  20 years ago I skanked one out of a bunker and hit someone 90 degrees away from fairly hard.  It shook me up for quite a while.  I know of folks who gave up the game after hitting someone seriously.. So.. be careful out there.. it is not that hard.  You can still focus and concentrate without being self-absorbed (there is plenty of time later for that..)

[Mr3Wiggle]

  bplewis24 said:

Originally Posted by bplewis24

I'm sorry, what did you think the thread was about?  The entire first post was a story about a person nearly killing his golfing partner because of a hasty decision.  If people don't learn a lesson from reading some of the posts in this thread then they, like Alan, don't get the point.

Brandon

I took the guy's entire story as a lie.

[MajorSlice]

I believe FORE is enough.  A few years ago, when we used to take out wives out every now and then, my sister-in-law chipped a shot from the left side of the green as I was driving up the in my cart.  I didnt think much about her standing there practice swinging, because it wasnt her turn to shoot and she was only 4 yards away from the hole.  she skulled it, shanking it to the left at 5000 mph and it slammed into my upper thigh, right next to "the boys", missed 'em by about an inch.  I yelp, because it hurt, and she yells at me because I was "in the way of her shot".  My brother yelled at her, because it wasnt even her shot and she is horrible at golf.  I took her ball and threw it in water after checking to make sure i was ok, lol.  I left the course with a giant black bruise.  There was no yelling of FORE and Ive found that many "new" or :bad" golfers do not yell it.  Another one of my firends was hit in the head by a ball, by a new golfer not yelling "Fore".

Everyone needs to pay attention on the course.  Bad shots will be hit and idiots will continue to walk blindly onto your fairway.  If everyone pays attention, there is little chance of getting hit.

Also, we've stopped bringing out wives golfing with us.  i can deal with bad golfers, I just cant deal with bad golfers who are also slow.

[camper6]

When you get right down to it, you're suppose to holler Fore before you hit the ball not after.

Think about it.  If Fore is being hollered people must be in range.

[RayG]

About the bit of being sure to stand behind someone hitting. It isn't always the safest place, either. I have twice been struck being 'behind' someone. First time I was behind my dad, and somehow he was able to clip the ball off the tee so it shot straight between his legs and clanked into my shin. The pain was quickly abated by the howls of laughter from everyone on the tee-box, including me. The second time I was standing behind and off to the side and she happened to push a wormburner just off to the right at 100 mph. Unfortunately, about 15ft out was a steel pipe about 3 inches in diameter and 2 feet high- sure enough in ricocheted straight back and hit my ankle bone at about 90 mph. That one couldn't be abated quite so easily by the laughing. Timing was good though- it was on the 9th hole and we were able to stop in the clubhouse for some ice... drenched in Jack Daniels. It took 3 courses of treatment to be able to get back and finish the round.

[Matthew Brett]

Usually if 1 person yells fore i duck and put my arms around my head.  If the whole group that his the ball is yelling fore, I treat it like a bomb is being dropped somewhere around me.

So to answer your question, usually if the ball is coming straight at me, I expect to hear a panicked FORE!!!!

[Gresh24]

  RayG said:

Originally Posted by RayG

About the bit of being sure to stand behind someone hitting. It isn't always the safest place, either. I have twice been struck being 'behind' someone. First time I was behind my dad, and somehow he was able to clip the ball off the tee so it shot straight between his legs and clanked into my shin. The pain was quickly abated by the howls of laughter from everyone on the tee-box, including me. The second time I was standing behind and off to the side and she happened to push a wormburner just off to the right at 100 mph. Unfortunately, about 15ft out was a steel pipe about 3 inches in diameter and 2 feet high- sure enough in ricocheted straight back and hit my ankle bone at about 90 mph. That one couldn't be abated quite so easily by the laughing. Timing was good though- it was on the 9th hole and we were able to stop in the clubhouse for some ice... drenched in Jack Daniels. It took 3 courses of treatment to be able to get back and finish the round.

When people refer to standing "behind" someone hitting, they mean behind their line, not literally behind where they are facing when teeing off.   Your definition of 'behind' is actually on the side, and no side is 100% safe being beside a person hitting, as you have found out.