2012 Players Championship Discussion Thread

[brocks]

Question about Na's "bad timing" confrontation late in the third round: Why?  I thought you were no longer "on the clock" if you caught up to the group in front of you.  At that point in the round Na was clearly caught up - even having to wait for the group ahead to clear the green. Surely the PGA doesn't want him to hit into other players just to adhere to a "shot clock"!

What follows is what I think I heard the commentators say, but I didn't record it, and I was only listening with one ear, so don't hold me to it. But: There are stages of slow play notifications. First, after you get too far behind the group ahead of you, you're told you are on the clock. Once your group is on the clock, if you take too long to hit a shot, you're given a first warning. There is no immediate penalty for that, but it goes on your record. And if you do it again before you are off the clock, you get a second warning, which does involve a penalty. Here's an article about it, but I don't know if it's the most recent rule: http://www.golftoday.co.uk/news/yeartodate/news03/pgatour7.html My understanding is that after Na was on the clock, he got a first warning, which he appealed. The official then went back to wherever he goes to review the tape, denied the appeal, and came back out to tell him that his appeal was denied. By then his group had caught up and was off the clock, so when you saw him talking to the official he wasn't being told to speed up, he was just being told that his earlier appeal had been denied.

[bplewis24]

Originally Posted by Zwick

Was Luke Donalds 110 yard (!) drive on the 4th hole today on air? I really want to see how that happend. Or Mickelsons 169 yard bomb on the 10th?

Any vid on this?

Brandon

[mvmac]

Winner's Bag: Matt Kuchar at the Players Championship

DRIVER: Bridgestone J40(9.5°) with a G raphite Design DJ-6 X shaft
FAIRWAY WOODS: TaylorMade Burner (14.5°) with a Mitsubishi Diamana Bluboard 73X shaft
HYBRIDS : PINGi15 (20°, 23°) with Matrix Ozik Program shafts
IRONS: Bridgestone J40 Cavity Back (5-PW) with SteelFiber i90 Constant Weight S shafts
WEDGES: Bridgestone J40 (52°, 60°) and Titleist Vokey Spin Milled (62°) with True Temper Dynamic Golf S-400 shafts
PUTTERS: Rife Barbados
BALL: Bridgestone Tour B330-S

[MEfree]

Originally Posted by mvmac

Winner's Bag: Matt Kuchar at the Players Championship

DRIVER: Bridgestone J40(9.5°) with a Graphite Design DJ-6 X shaft

FAIRWAY WOODS: TaylorMade Burner (14.5°) with a Mitsubishi Diamana Bluboard 73X shaft

HYBRIDS: PINGi15 (20°, 23°) with Matrix Ozik Program shafts

IRONS: Bridgestone J40 Cavity Back (5-PW) with SteelFiber i90 Constant Weight S shafts

WEDGES: Bridgestone J40 (52°, 60°) and Titleist Vokey Spin Milled (62°) with True Temper Dynamic Golf S-400 shafts

PUTTERS: Rife Barbados

BALL: Bridgestone Tour B330-S

interesting- Surprised to see an 8 degree gap in wedges, considering he is carrying 4.  Also seems like a decent gap between his 14.5 and 20, but I understand this more as you have to make choices sometimes.

[mvmac]

Originally Posted by MEfree

interesting- Surprised to see an 8 degree gap in wedges, considering he is carrying 4.  Also seems like a decent gap between his 14.5 and 20, but I understand this more as you have to make choices sometimes.

It's probably just the number on the clubs.  Guys bend these clubs to fit the gaps they need, so in reality I'm sure there isn't an 8 degree gap.

[Chas]

I think he did that yesterday as well- shows what sort of shape he is in...don`t imagine that Colt Knost or Kevin Stadler does that very often.

I don't care what you say THAT is a funny remark ... if a little cruel :-) Matt showed his cool with his approach shot on the 18th - that thing was a pin-seeker even if it did land short. He strikes me as having a good head on his shoulders, that fellow. Brock's: thanks for the explanation, I learned from that. A lot is happening off-camera (and off commentary) in a slow play situation, hard to keep up with it.

[Harmonious]

Originally Posted by MEfree

interesting- Surprised to see an 8 degree gap in wedges, considering he is carrying 4.  Also seems like a decent gap between his 14.5 and 20, but I understand this more as you have to make choices sometimes.

I don't know for sure, but it wouldn't surprise me if Kuchar placed the 62° wedge in his bag just for this week.  The rough was really high around the greens, and they were playing fast, to say the least.

[MEfree]

Originally Posted by Harmonious

I don't know for sure, but it wouldn't surprise me if Kuchar placed the 62° wedge in his bag just for this week.  The rough was really high around the greens, and they were playing fast, to say the least.

Possible.  I would imagine that some of the guys make changes for different courses with their fairway woods/hybrids/long irons and/or their wedge set ups depending on length of rough, type of sand in the bunkers, firmness (sand and turf), length of shots they are likely to encounter, etc.

[Wally Fairway]

FWIW - with the storm system that is currently hammering Florida, the 17th at Sawgrass currently is truely an island green.