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Keeps your elbows together. I would think it makes you turn around a stable axis. I dunno though...

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Interesting concept.  Weird looking... but interesting.

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I stole a belt from my 5 yr old son, wrap it around my arms just above the elbows, does the same thing.

$3 at zellers or walmart.

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Originally Posted by nevets88

Keeps your elbows together. I would think it makes you turn around a stable axis. I dunno though...

http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012306270131


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They should make one with big fake titties on the front so everyone is too distracted to notice that you look like an idiot at the range

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Been looking for something like this. Funny he's from Rumson. Hominy Hill is my favorite course too.

I need to get this guy's cell. This would really help me out.

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Well, I actually bought this thing. Guy's from Rumson and he debuted it at my favorite course in Colts Neck, so I figured I'd give him a fair shake. Plus, since I've been partaking a lot in the elbow positioning thread, this looked like an interesting training aid. I'll post a review whenever the hell it arrives. Could be a while.

PS- Per Ernest's comment: Yes I am more than prepared with looking like a complete ass at the range. And I expect to get ribbed for it endlessly there by the other regulars. I'll write about that too.

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I like the impactball for keeping elbows close but this shirt looks promising

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Originally Posted by Mr. Desmond

I like the impactball for keeping elbows close but this shirt looks promising

Cost me $70. We'll see if I just pissed away a greens fee and a cart at a decent course.

Right now, I'd prefer not to have to think too much about my arms when I practice.

Small investment. We'll see how it goes.

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Originally Posted by JetFan1983

Cost me $70. We'll see if I just pissed away a greens fee and a cart at a decent course.

Right now, I'd prefer not to have to think too much about my arms when I practice.

Small investment. We'll see how it goes.


If it helps you in your swing, I would like to know also.

I rather look like a dunce on the range, than a jackass on the course.

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Originally Posted by JetFan1983

Cost me $70. We'll see if I just pissed away a greens fee and a cart at a decent course.

Right now, I'd prefer not to have to think too much about my arms when I practice.

Small investment. We'll see how it goes.

I was using my 4 year old's belt ala Ben Hogan, seemed to work pretty well and definitely kept the elbows together.

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Originally Posted by Ernest Jones

I was using my 4 year old's belt ala Ben Hogan, seemed to work pretty well and definitely kept the elbows together.

That's all I do. :)

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Originally Posted by Ernest Jones

I was using my 4 year old's belt ala Ben Hogan, seemed to work pretty well and definitely kept the elbows together.

That's all I do. :)

Yea well, we'll see. I want to see if it'll control my upper right arm location as well.

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Originally Posted by JetFan1983

Cost me $70. We'll see if I just pissed away a greens fee and a cart at a decent course.

Right now, I'd prefer not to have to think too much about my arms when I practice.

Small investment. We'll see how it goes.

I'm with you - not that bad for a shirt :-)

impactball is $35. For full swing, squeeze elbows - ball stays.

Best training aid for me to easily use.

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