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im 22 and just started playing 8 months ago but I'm beyond obsessed with the sport. I hit the ball a really long ways but i hit it too high with my short irons and balloon it with my long irons. Im down in tampa now and met a kid and his dad was James Black who played on the pga at the same time as arnold palmer and all those guys. however, his trajectory was unreal, he hit every shot low and could make the long irons release and the short irons stop or come back. My flight is just so high wherever it hits on the green its either staying there or rolling back 2 feet at the most and thats if the slope is back towards me. I would love to get the ball flight this kid has and I tried not swinging so hard and not hinging at the top so bad. any instruction will help as i am a quick learner and if it doesn't feel right immediately I'm pretty good at making the adjustments.

here are my distances so you guys have an idea: yes these are legit and they do balloon pretty bad. with my driver I average 120-127 swing speed off the tee and I have used trackman to get those numbers more than 20 times. gotten ball speed up to 197 but I do not swing like that on the course. trying to find more control and a lower ball flight so I can shape the shot better. Ive been working on a draw and a fade and can actually do them fairly well its just that I hit the damn ball a mile in the air.

4 - 240

5 - 225

6 - 210

7-195

8-185

9-175

P - 155

GW - 140

I can work all these to take about 5 yards off or put 5 more on top. everything is good except for my ball flight

Adams Pro A12 with KBS shafts.. not the C-Taper, however I am getting X100 put on mine as these are mid to high launch shafts anyways. I have the 6-GW bent back a degree.


Originally Posted by amssmitty

4 - 240

5 - 225

6 - 210

7-195

8-185

9-175

P - 155

GW - 140

If you're truly hitting those clubs those distances and remain a 14 handicap, you should be less concerned with trajectory and more concerned with your short game.


Just a random question, but are you hitting down with your irons or more of a "sweeping" swing?  Also, where is the ball in relation to your front foot?  While I can't get those types of distances myself, I know I have a sweep swing and don't get stop on the greens unless it's my PW or maybe a 9i.


im 22 and just started playing 8 months ago but I'm beyond obsessed with the sport. I hit the ball a really long ways but i hit it too high with my short irons and balloon it with my long irons. Im down in tampa now and met a kid and his dad was James Black who played on the pga at the same time as arnold palmer and all those guys. however, his trajectory was unreal, he hit every shot low and could make the long irons release and the short irons stop or come back. My flight is just so high wherever it hits on the green its either staying there or rolling back 2 feet at the most and thats if the slope is back towards me. I would love to get the ball flight this kid has and I tried not swinging so hard and not hinging at the top so bad. any instruction will help as i am a quick learner and if it doesn't feel right immediately I'm pretty good at making the adjustments.  here are my distances so you guys have an idea: yes these are legit and they do balloon pretty bad. with my driver I average 120-127 swing speed off the tee and I have used trackman to get those numbers more than 20 times. gotten ball speed up to 197 but I do not swing like that on the course. trying to find more control and a lower ball flight so I can shape the shot better. Ive been working on a draw and a fade and can actually do them fairly well its just that I hit the damn ball a mile in the air.  4 - 240 5 - 225 6 - 210 7-195 8-185 9-175 P - 155 GW - 140 I can work all these to take about 5 yards off or put 5 more on top. everything is good except for my ball flight Adams Pro A12 with KBS shafts.. not the C-Taper, however I am getting X100 put on mine as these are mid to high launch shafts anyways. I have the 6-GW bent back a degree.

:-O These distances are unreal, even for the internet.

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haha can't make this stuff up! the hardest part is hitting into the wind they go nowhere simply because they go so high. i have it relatively forward in my stance and yes i do believe i have a pretty steep swing. my balls literally hit the green and bounce once and just sit. I would love to be able to lower it and get some spin on the ball cause if i come up short there is zero chance for the ball to roll out even 5 feet. I would like to learn this swing so I have more options with my clubs where i can carry the green or run it up the front. thanks for the input


1. Need different shafts

2. Ball back in stance keeps it lower

3. Flatten swing out and hit a draw.

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Playing 8 months and those are your distances? your average distances? or your maximum downwind distances? I consider myself quite a big hitter compared to most of the people around my handicap that I play with and you basically have 2 clubs on me i.e your 9i is my 7i etc. but seriously forget trajectory for a bit and knock ten shots off your hcap with working on some short game, I've always felt anyone who can reach the hole in the correct amount of shots even if not a GIR should be a single figure handicap, I don't get why people don't work on what is imo the most important part of the game, short game! Stop worrying about traj and start logging where you're losing those 14 shots instead of worrying about having a pretty ballflight :)


Steve I like what your saying and I'm a 15 or so handicap can you give me any hints on things to work on as far as short game I don't have a ton of time to practice all the ranges are kinda far and the course that's close to me kinda rapes you to hit range balls. If there's something I can do at home to work on my short game or something at the putting green I"m all about it I'd like to cut that 15 down to 10 by the end of next year if possible.

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Originally Posted by Stevep21

Playing 8 months and those are your distances? your average distances? or your maximum downwind distances?

These are my usual distances but they vary so much just cause hitting into the wind i have no idea how to keep it low. but no wind and downwind, yes i can consistently hit these distances. the only problem being they're 100% carry


What is your ball flight?  I am guessing weak fade.  If they are really high the face is likely open, like you are opening up a wedge.  To hit a punch shot follow through lower, in the beginning the ball will probably go left, way left.  Figure it out for windy days.

I have a very high ball flight without the extreme distance.

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Im curious to see if the critics think those distances are so fake they aren't even going to bother or if they will show up.

Lets wait and see.

FWIW I kind of find it unbelievable.

If this is serious then I would say don't worry about it for now. If you are a 15 handicap dont worry about your trajectory and worry about maybe scoring or some of those other important things. There are no pictures on a scorecard. The only trajectory that should be important right now is when chipping, pitching, or flopping the ball. If you can reach any par 5 in 2 and par 4's are no problem then you either struggle with alot of miss hits or you have a terrible short game.

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I coach our varsity golf team and I have a kid that's playing that hits his SW just about 150, just ridiculous and it's a nice flight and swing and he has only been playing a year. Not something you see often for sure but I am seeing it now. As mentioned, check what your shaft flight is and how steep is your swing. A really steep swing path will launch the ball higher.
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