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Originally Posted by mvmac

This video has proved a huge benefit to my game ... they're all great. But when I began a CP Swing, I tended to ignore the arms. This brought perspective, and although Erik and Mike have discussed role of the left arm on the downswing before impact, I did not "get it" until I saw this video.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Desmond

This video has proved a huge benefit to my game ... they're all great. But when I began a CP Swing, I tended to ignore

the arms. This brought perspective, and although Erik and Mike have discussed role of the left arm on the downswing before impact, I did not "get it" until I saw this video.

Awesome to hear, we'll keep 'em coming

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Originally Posted by CrazyD3

I am new here.  I saw a lot of discussion in S&T; swing, and similiarity with the 5 keys, are they the same?

S&T; is a swing or a pattern while 5SK is a learning system for golfers based on things the game's greatest players have in common.  More info on how 5SK differs from S&T;

http://thesandtrap.com/t/60820/purestrike-5sk-stack-and-tilt-etc

http://thesandtrap.com/t/64993/weight-forward-using-swingcatalyst-and-sam-balance-lab-to-explain-pressure-throughout-the-swing

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Didn't see this one posted yet. A drill a really like. [VIDEO]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqEQRRzsrfM[/VIDEO]
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Thanks Zeph!

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In the video talking about improving space on the downswing by bringing the left arm down.  Do you bring the arm down by pulling on the left, pushing by the right hand, bringing the shoulder down with the hip (which is usually taught on the first move down)?


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Originally Posted by CrazyD3

In the video talking about improving space on the downswing by bringing the left arm down.  Do you bring the arm down by pulling on the left, pushing by the right hand, bringing the shoulder down with the hip (which is usually taught on the first move down)?

It's whatever feel translates to performing the motion.  Have to get in front of a mirror or film yourself doing it slowly and take note of how it feels to you. I can make suggestions but in the end it's the visual cue or feel that clicks with the player.  All the examples you just said could and have worked for various golfers.  I think it also helps to "see" yourself doing it correctly, 3rd person perspective.

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It's whatever feel translates to performing the motion.  Have to get in front of a mirror or film yourself doing it slowly and take note of how it feels to you. I can make suggestions but in the end it's the visual cue or feel that clicks with the player.  All the examples you just said could and have worked for various golfers.  I think it also helps to "see" yourself doing it correctly, 3rd person perspective.

I can also add that sometimes feel that works for you once will change or be different next time. My feels will often evolve or migrate or shift over time.

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I got my 5SK DVD's on Thursday, they are great instructional videos.  I already had mastered the steady head key with my current instructor and the flat lead wrist was pretty consistent but I struggled with the weight forward.  I never felt the weight shift I thought I should or saw presented in threads here on this site.

My current instructor has tried to minimize my back leg from losing flexion on the backswing and encourages me to initiate the downswing by turning my hips without any slide.  I don't know if he was doing that to simplify the movements for me or if his methods are just old school.  I've been hitting the ball consistently but not with the ball height or distance I expected.

After watching the video and seeing the weight forward key, I practiced some of the drills at the house the last two evenings and went to the range today.  I hit about 150 balls trying to incorporate the weight forward key and the difference was night and day.  When done right, the ball shot off the club head like a rocket, higher and further than I'd ever hit it and there was a 15+ mph wind in my face.  The range has a flag set at 110 yards, which I typically used my pitching wedge to practice with, today the ball was flying well over the 110 yard target using my gap wedge when I hit the ball properly keeping my weight forward.

I only messed around a little with club face control, presetting the club face at address, but it works well.  I was able to hit a draw or fade on command as long as my weight shifted properly.

I definitely have some work to do with the weight shift but I can't wait to hit the range tomorrow...

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Originally Posted by iacas

By far one of the best and easiest to apply "tips" I've ever tried.

Have always had a problem with proper weight transfer and right knee kicking toward ball.... problem solved!!

bravo sir...thanks!!


Found the belt loop drill on youtube - very nice, guys!

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Originally Posted by Mr. Desmond

Found the belt loop drill on youtube - very nice, guys!

It's also here: post #84 , a few posts up. :)

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With my 7 iron I hit my Diet Pepsi 25 yards with a 5 yard spray pattern!  Im sure you get more carry with the Coke One though...

Seriously Dave, great videos.  You've given me a lot to work on without giving me too much, if you know what I mean.


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