• Announcements

    • iacas

      Visit FlagstickRule.com   03/13/2017

      Visit the site flagstickrule.com to read about and sign a petition for the USGA/R&A regarding the one terrible rule in the proposed "modernized" rules for 2019.
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
mvmac

2013 Sony Open at Waialae Country Club Discussion Thread

21 posts in this topic

Waialae Country Club, site of this week's Sony Open in Hawaii, isn't all palm trees and ocean-side swimming pools. Spectators and television viewers may see paradise, but make no mistake, the first full-field event of 2013 sets up for grinders.  Hope the weather is better than last week.  Want to make sure I started this thread or Golfingdad will get mad at me

Power Rankings from http://www.pgatour.com

Rank Player Comment
Tim Clark Perfect track for a sharpshooter off the tee. Recovery from elbow surgery precluded his appearance last year. Co-runner-up in 2011 when he led the field in both proximity to the hole and scrambling. Also co-led in greens in regulation.
Carl Pettersson In eight starts, he's alternated top 25s with missed cuts. Last year's personal-best T2 set the stage for a huge year that he polished off with four consecutive top 20s. Ranked T3 at Waialae in 2010 in greens in regulation and T5 in bogey avoidance.
Charles Howell III Sits third in all-time earnings at this event but has yet to win. He's made the cut in all 11 starts, six of which have resulted in a top five, including last year's co-runner-up. Climbed out of a slump late in 2012 to post three top 15s.
Dustin Johnson Making his third appearance. Tied for 10th in 2008 and logged a T16 in 2010. He's already crafted a reputation as one of the best wind players in the game. Also validated at TPC Southwind last year that he can harness his length on short tracks.
Brendon de Jonge First start anywhere since capping off a torrid Fall Series and trip to Malaysia. Tied for 10th at Waialae last year. Carded a field-low bogey-free 62 in the second round. Ranked sixth in par breakers (19). Finished eighth on TOUR in GIR in 2012.
Matt Every In his debut at Waialae last year, held the outright lead at the midpoint and shared it after 54 holes. Went on to tie for sixth place, ranking T17 in greens hit and T4 in par breakers. Led the PGA TOUR in birdies or better on par 4s in 2012.
David Hearn His tee-to-green proficiency is a superb fit for Waialae. He proved it en route to a T10 last year, ranking T7 in fairways hit, T17 in greens and sixth in proximity. He also led the field in strokes gained-putting and would close out the year ranked 44th overall.
Matt Kuchar Returns after a one-year hiatus since finishing T5 in 2011. Despite his size, he's more ball-striker than masher. His flat swing also works well in the wind. His short game and putting stand among the best on the PGA TOUR.
Graham DeLaet In both previous appearances (2010, 2012), he's posted 5-under 275 to secure a pair of top 30s. Held the 18-hole lead last year following a 63. Played the par 5s in 9-under with an eagle and seven birdies. Ranked third in proximity to the hole.
Billy Horschel Hasn't played Waialae since missing the cut in his debut in 2010, but the q-school grad is ripe to parlay a strong finish last year into early success this season. Ranked eighth in 2012 in ball-striking, including 21st in fairways hit and 11th in GIR.
Zach Johnson The 2009 champion has scored under par in only four of 10 rounds since his title, including a bogey-free 65 in the second round last year, but he's coming off one of his best seasons. Ranked 14th in fairways hit and sixth in strokes gained-putting.
Keegan Bradley As the TOUR's leader in the all-around ranking in 2012, he can't be dismissed anywhere especially as he gathers experience at host venues. En route to last year's T13, tied for third in greens hit (55) but only T33 in par breakers (15).
Scott Piercy Tied for 23rd a year ago at Waialae. Also tied for second that week in par breakers (21) and 10th in strokes gained-putting. Played holes 12-18 in bogey-free 13-under; added an eagle and two birdies on the par-5 ninth. Also finished T12 here in 2009.
Webb Simpson Teeing it up for the fifth consecutive year at Waialae. He's the last rookie to post a top 10 at this event (T9, 2009), which is also his only top 35 here, but he ranked 34th on TOUR last year in greens hit and second in par breakers.
Davis Love III Owns the course record -- a 60 in 1994 -- and has registered seven top 10 in 13 starts, including most recently a T5 in 2010 and a T9 in 2011. Now free of Ryder Cup duties, the 48-year-old can focus on tasks inside the ropes. Three top 10s in 2012.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Sign up (or log in) today! It's free (and you won't see this ad anymore)!

Sign up (or log in) today! It's free (and you won't see this ad anymore)!

I like this courses layout, look forward to seeing how the players are of the tee.  I think we may see a lot of 3 Woods.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I like dustin johnson in this simply due to him having rediculous confidence coming off the hyundai.  He'll probably be hitting a lot of 3i off the tee haha.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Lol mike! I wasn't gonna get mad at you ... Everybody else was gonna get mad at me if I started it and it got rained out again! :) Best group tomorrow: Zach Johnson Dustin Johnson Wagner, Johnson Ha!
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Originally Posted by Acooper1983

I like dustin johnson in this simply due to him having rediculous confidence coming off the hyundai.  He'll probably be hitting a lot of 3i off the tee haha.

I honestly don't know, but I think DJ will have a tough go after difficult tournament conditions last week, and a very short week as well.  I'd almost be more inclined to go with someone who didn't compete at the ToC if I was to try and make a pick.  With golf, I just don't bother.... too many variables, and too much parity in most fields.  I just watch it occasionally and enjoy the play when I do.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Originally Posted by Fourputt

I honestly don't know, but I think DJ will have a tough go after difficult tournament conditions last week, and a very short week as well.  I'd almost be more inclined to go with someone who didn't compete at the ToC if I was to try and make a pick.  With golf, I just don't bother.... too many variables, and too much parity in most fields.  I just watch it occasionally and enjoy the play when I do.

Booo! ... where's the fun in that?  ;)

I'm going with Patrick Reed!  They profiled him last night on "On The Range" and I think he's technically a rookie, but he Monday qualified some record amount of times last season, made a bunch of cuts, and made over 300k.  Talk about a grinder!

(Oh, and his wife is caddying for him and more TV time for her would not be a bad thing)

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Weather is dependent on which side of the island.  Last week at the Hyundai it was blowing like stink at Kapalua, but much more calm on the north side.  Kapalua is on the northwest side of Maui and Waialae is on the southeast side of Oahu.  Still, I would love to see wind.  Makes it fun to watch.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I really like Zach Johnson as a winner this week. I think he is proven on the track and his game suits the course. Keegan Bradley can play well here as well. Obviously a lot will like Dustin off of last week but I do not like him to go back-to-back. I broke it down here http://sportsunbiased.com/2013/01/pga-tour-2013-sony-open-winner-is-zach-johnson/ if anyone wants to go check it out and let me know what you think.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

KJ with a bad break on the 17th. His ball lands on Webb Simpsons' ball on the fly, and it ricochets into a bunker. Expect that to make the highlight reel :p

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Originally Posted by MiseryBusiness

KJ with a bad break on the 17th. His ball lands on Webb Simpsons' ball on the fly, and it ricochets into a bunker. Expect that to make the highlight reel :p

Weird ... I watched it happen on TV as I was reading this.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Originally Posted by MiseryBusiness

KJ with a bad break on the 17th. His ball lands on Webb Simpsons' ball on the fly, and it ricochets into a bunker. Expect that to make the highlight reel :p

Yeah, a true "rub of the green" (and the correct usage of the phrase).  I know guys who would have had a tantrum over a bad break like that.  Choi just went about his business.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

So I keep thinking these rookies will fade, yet they just keep pressing on and making putts from everywhere. Is it a done deal that one of them is going to win this thing tomorrow?

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Originally Posted by pottsshotscp

Is it a done deal that one of them is going to win this thing tomorrow?

Sure ... no one ever chokes on a Sunday.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Congrats to Henley, but also to Tim Clark...back from injuries finishing with a 63 as well.

Great golf.

Incredibly entertaining as well.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0



  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • 2017 TST Partners

    PING Golf
    Leupold Golf
    Snell Golf
    Talamore Golf Resort
    Lowest Score Wins
  • Posts

    • I don't know that it'll add anything. It likely won't even do all that SAM does.
    • No, not exactly...just a general or rough definition of "in the vicinity" will do. Not all of us are 1.5ers. 
    • Which range in the US, the piece doesn't say. Trackman Range is basically setting up multiple radars, 3 for example, so that it can provide numbers for a range of a given length, like 130 yards in the example here and everyone on that range in selected spots basically has radar. Here's the piece that talks about the setup some more plus putting. The new ability to measure putt related data is interesting as well, wonder what it'll add in addition to SAM Puttlab. 
    • Well,  you said for most people,  and I do not have a large sample size to draw from in my own experience in golf so... I draw from my own personal experience.    As a player there was a time when I wanted to change the shape of my swing very badly in a certain way.  I have found that when I tried to do that and hit a ball at the same time it was too much for my brain and I would find contact with the ball over making the change or the change I saw on video would be miniscule if present at all.  I found though that if I removed the ball I was able to make changes.  Now,  obviously this was making an air swing that might not even hit a ball on the ground.  No accuracy,  but that's the point!  Free the brain from having to put clubhead on ball for a minute and focus on something else to harness it a bit!  I removed all intention of a precise strike or clubface control by doing this.  I am talking now seriously make a swing or two look at video...most times exaggerate the move even more...look at video.  Repeat repeat repeat.   Same exact video angle all the time!   This is not a fast process I am just explaining what I was doing.  Backyard was perfect for this feel vs real experimentation feedback loop I was working on.  The only purpose of this was to develop a way I could learn to somewhat repeat what I was looking for.  Stage two would be targeting a tuft of grass and doing it again video.  Stage three would be maybe going out to the range and like you said rehearsing a few and then bringing in the ball and striking it. For me going out and shanking and slicing a bucket of balls working on a change costs money and it's hard to convince myself it's a success regardless of what I see on video.  I've done it several times. So,  before I did the whole air swing thing I hit many buckets and basically it was not effective at anything except maybe excercise and grooving compensations to the point I built myself a nice yip impact block on full swings.  Yes I admit at first I thought I could beat golf by athletic ability alone like every moron high cap that beats balls ingraining moves that need to be eliminated if they are ever to improve.  Without a couple simple workable concepts imo hitting balls is really the worst thing to do for a relatively inexperienced player.  So,  that's my take. For background info on me I played tennis in college and it was sport of focus from maybe sixth grade on and I took proper instruction with one coach for quite a while.  I feel I maximized my potential there.  Often in college I would surf in the morning early (skipping class obviously) and then for the afternoon travel for matches and play my singles and a doubles match.  My coach seriously used to ask me if I surfed that day because he said I played better when I did! I have a lot of experience in teaching athletics of various sorts  including surfing and soccer and I have been told many many times by many people that I have a natural affinity for teaching in a minimalistic simple fashion.  I succeeded in many ways in athletics but for me it was always a personal focus on technique that led to success.  Growing up I could never jump high or run very fast or lift heavy weights,  but I developed a pretty good jump shot in hoops.   I could kick a ball far and score goals in soccer. I am just not one of those naturally athletic fearless types who as a kid could jump their bike real huge or Ollie a skateboard a couple feet into the air or do a tuck flip off a diving board into a pool without thinking a bit how they did it.  I can identify those types and imo there's something happening there most of the rest of us ain't got!  Sure I could flip but it was an extended body flop of sorts lol.  In tennis I got decent,  but it was from good instruction,  good practice, an absolute ton of hours of hard work,  and if I might say so very good technique.  In golf I can't break par so I don't really ever bother people in swing threads unless I can speak from personal experience.  I realize I am not qualified to develop a swing to say a par shooter,  so I don't try to.   I think I might have some thoughts relative to some though.  Sorry for boring those who have read this but I must say I value my time spent on this site highly;  most sites are crud these days filled with Internet warrior liars who don't offer much true Quality.        
  • TST Blog Entries

  • Blog Entries

  • Today's Birthdays

    1. Golfgirl10543
      Golfgirl10543
      (43 years old)
    2. jkettman
      jkettman
      (28 years old)
    3. old man1953
      old man1953
      (64 years old)
  • Get Great Gear with Amazon